.40 s&w hs-6 180 gr cast help???
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I can only get you close. Per Lyman 49th
both listed 175gr bullets use:
7gr start and 8.2gr max #401043
7gr start and 8.4 max #401638
Nothing for exactly 180gr cast.
Adjust as you see fit.
both listed 175gr bullets use:
7gr start and 8.2gr max #401043
7gr start and 8.4 max #401638
Nothing for exactly 180gr cast.
Adjust as you see fit.
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
I went to the Hodgdon website. They don't list one either.
You can extrapolate like OCD says; up from 175gr or down from the 180gr jacketed data I am about to post.
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .400" 1.125" 6.1 876 25,900 PSI 6.9 976 32,500 PSI
One thing I need to caution you on. Pressure. The 40S&W is a very high pressure round and the firearms that shoot it can make bad things happen real quick. If you are shooting these rounds in something that has an unsupported chamber, like a BHP or a Glock, I would definitely start low and work my way up.
The one thing OCD left out was the OAL. DO NOT REDUCE THE OAL BELOW WHAT I HAVE POSTED. That is the second most reason those unsupported firearms blow up. It is a recipe, not just a powder weight. All parts of the cake have to be there or it won't turn out right.
Cakes are one thing, firearms are quite another.
You can extrapolate like OCD says; up from 175gr or down from the 180gr jacketed data I am about to post.
180 GR. HDY XTP Hodgdon HS-6 .400" 1.125" 6.1 876 25,900 PSI 6.9 976 32,500 PSI
One thing I need to caution you on. Pressure. The 40S&W is a very high pressure round and the firearms that shoot it can make bad things happen real quick. If you are shooting these rounds in something that has an unsupported chamber, like a BHP or a Glock, I would definitely start low and work my way up.
The one thing OCD left out was the OAL. DO NOT REDUCE THE OAL BELOW WHAT I HAVE POSTED. That is the second most reason those unsupported firearms blow up. It is a recipe, not just a powder weight. All parts of the cake have to be there or it won't turn out right.
Cakes are one thing, firearms are quite another.
Thanks for the help guys. My nephew is showing up with the cast 180 grainers. I have loaded for the .40 before, always with xtp's. I will start low and work up from there. A few sources are telling me that the Lyman pistol handbook is the one to buy for cast data. thanks again. dcl
Beans
Member
Smith, as you taught and advised me on my recent post on 45ACP how can he be sure of the OAL if the bullet is a unknown? If his cast bullet is longer or shorter than a XTP than wouldn't that change the whole recipe?
I broke down one of my factory 45 ACP 230 gr RN and it was much longer than the Berrys plated. I loaded mine at the same OAL so in my error prone logic I should have less pressure if the powder was the same??
Doesn't anyone publish a manual/book that lists a duplicate of the most common found factory loads? So for example WWW in 9mm 115 fmj and 45Auto 230gr fmj. Or Rem UMC etc.?? It seems very dificult to find.
I broke down one of my factory 45 ACP 230 gr RN and it was much longer than the Berrys plated. I loaded mine at the same OAL so in my error prone logic I should have less pressure if the powder was the same??
Doesn't anyone publish a manual/book that lists a duplicate of the most common found factory loads? So for example WWW in 9mm 115 fmj and 45Auto 230gr fmj. Or Rem UMC etc.?? It seems very dificult to find.
Skip Sackett
US Veteran
Maximum OAL for the 40S&W is 1.135". Because of the configuration of the XTP I know that another bullet of the same weight is going to have less in the case than it.
I kind of guessed I guess.
Doesn't the XD have polyagonal (sp?) rifling? I do not know for sure, but from what I have heard, lead is not so good for poly rifling. Do not know if that only applies to Glocks. I of course could be wrong, maybe some other folks can chime in.
Correction to my earlier post. I called SA and the rep said that the XD has regular rifling but she was not sure at first and put be on hold for a long while. I then asked her if it was OK to shoot lead and she said no, not even in their 1911's when I asked why it was "because it is hard on the chamber and barrels and just not recomended" Sooo I do not know what that really means other than the usual not recomending of reloads.
