Jakerin
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I have a G23, M&P40fs but my favorite.40 is a Shield40 2.0
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Yeah, I like the feel of the arched back strap on the M39 too. The curve fits my hand just right.
I have a G23, M&P40fs but my favorite.40 is a Shield40 2.0
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Some 20+ years ago I was soured on 40 S&W by a buddy's Glock 23C. Maybe it needed a new recoil spring or something, but I found the recoil nasty. I've often thought about scoring a used Glock 22, a flood of which seem to have hit the market lately. If the M&P has tamed the recoil that much, maybe I should get one of those instead of the Glock.
I started out carrying a .357 Magnum revolver and I've never understood the complaints about the .40SW recoil.
I too like the M&P 40, and bought two 1.0's some years back cheap that were in excellent condition.
I also bought OEM .357 Sig barrels for them as I like the .357 Sig, and use Underwood 125gr JHP at 1475fps for defensive carry.
You can see from @Hawg Rider's comment the lunacy in it all. Doesn't like 40s&w because he tried one gun in 40s&w with probably one or two types of ammo, but he's happy with 10mm which is either loaded to be simular like 40s&w 90% of the or hotter then 40s&w for full power hunting loads. It makes absolutely zero logical sense.
I think some people's perceptions, what they like, and what they don't like is subconsciously heavily influenced by their environment and what their peers think. If LE, NATO, and all the social media influences started pushing 40s&w, many of the same naysayers would flip-flop.
I take exception to Forum members slamming other Forum members for their likes or dislikes. "Lunacy" and "absolutely zero logical sense" are not the kind of comments we need to see here on the Forum! I was trying to make the point that the ergonomics of the modern S&W M&P pistols are much better than those of the earlier Glocks and help to reduce felt recoil of cartridges like the .40 S&W and 10mm. Poor ergonomics and recoil are probably contributors to why so many police forces abandoned the .40 for 9mm.
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... the ergonomics of the modern S&W M&P pistols are much better than those of the earlier Glocks and help to reduce felt recoil of cartridges like the .40 S&W and 10mm.
Poor ergonomics and recoil are probably contributors to why so many police forces abandoned the .40 for 9mm.
Blasphemous....
If you want a 40s&w pistol with great ergos, feels great in hand, and is built like a tank, get a HK P30L. I am glad you brought HK up because they are another brand that handles 40s&w well.
I almost bought a M&P .40. My plan was to buy a conversion barrel to shoot both 9mm and .40 with it. Then I found that I could buy a complete HK VP40 slide for roughly the same price...so I did. I found the VP40 slide to be wider and beefier than the 9mm slide and the recoil was very manageable. I'm very happy with my decision.
I am a fan of the .40, and I never had a problem with recoil until I recently picked up a Glock 22. The thing kicks like a mule.
The observations in this thread make me think that the Glock 23C I tried 20 years ago didn't really do the 40 S&W cartridge justice. Mind you, I was convinced that gun needed a new RSA because the empties were really flying. Could that be the problem with your G22?
Maybe when things settle down a bit domestically, I might try and score a surplus M&P in 40 just to see what's what in the modern era.
The observations in this thread make me think that the Glock 23C I tried 20 years ago didn't really do the 40 S&W cartridge justice. Mind you, I was convinced that gun needed a new RSA because the empties were really flying. Could that be the problem with your G22?
Maybe when things settle down a bit domestically, I might try and score a surplus M&P in 40 just to see what's what in the modern era.
I almost bought a M&P .40. My plan was to buy a conversion barrel to shoot both 9mm and .40 with it. Then I found that I could buy a complete HK VP40 slide for roughly the same price...so I did. I found the VP40 slide to be wider and beefier than the 9mm slide and the recoil was very manageable. I'm very happy with my decision.