.41 mag w/215gr SWC & 2400?

[Teddydog]

Remember to omit Blue Dot as a .41 Rem Mag,.44 Rem. Mag. and heavy .357 loads per Alliant Powder.I have gone through all of my reloading books and blacked Blue Dot out. Sierra still shows reloading info using Blue Dot in the .41 Mag.

Oh? Hadn't heard that. Did Alliant "de-certify" Blue Dot for heavies? It was always my "go to" for stout .44 Mag loads (of which I have loaded none in about 10 years).

EDIT: I just checked online and they do still show .44 Mag loads with Blue Dot at a charge of 13.7 for a 240 GR JHP.

Rob

 

[longranger]

Alliant had posted a new eratta page indicating Blue Dot was not to be used in .41-.44 Mag as well as heavy .357 loads a few years ago.I just checked their web site and could not find it, if that has changed they have not posted new new eratta info indicating a change.I will call them today and see what's up with Blue Dot.I too used it for years in .41 Mag.Seems the small charges of B.D. had caused some detonation in a few guns. I know this to be true a few years ago and not aware it has changed.
I just looked at there reloading guide,.44 Mag and .357 have load data but no .41 Mag.I have an inquiry to what's the latest info.Also I found it interesting that Blue Dot load info is not in their handgun section it is in the shotgun section for handguns ?

 

[M29since14]

Have you tried Universal? It's similar to Unique but burns a bit cleaner...

No, I have not. I have tried it in .45 Auto and 38 Special - was not impressed. It is probably too slow for that application, so I wonder if it will not be similar in 900-1000 FPS loads in 44 Magnum (similar pressure levels, I would guess). But nothing tells the story like trying it, so I plan to, as soon as time and cooler weather permits.

I use Universal in 28-ga skeet loads, so I always have a bunch of it on hand. It is great for that purpose. We also have one member here who claims good results with WSF in moderate 44 loads (should work the same in a .41), so it too is on the list to check out.

The issue with Unqiue, for me, at least, is not so much one of clean-burning but rather consistency on the chronograph and, even worse, leading. For years, I used 8.5- or 9.0-grains of Unique for indoor target loads in the 44. Barely noticed leading. Now, in the last few years, for some reason, I have leading like never before. It seems like something has changed, and the powder may have nothing to do with it. My friends say I am just getting too picky in my advancing age - and grumpy. ( )

I do not attribute the problems to the bullets, since I use the same ones with 2400 - and leading is about what I have always expected. So I am not sure what to think. I used to notice more leading in SS guns than in my older blued-steel guns. Now, if it says 44 Magnum on the barrel, leading is a problem with 900-1000 FPS loads.

 

[ISOM]

215 grain .41 Magnum round

You will not find reloading information on the 215 bullet.
I would use either a midrange 210 load or the 220 load information.

 

[Skip Sackett]

From Alliant

Oh? Hadn't heard that. Did Alliant "de-certify" Blue Dot for heavies? It was always my "go to" for stout .44 Mag loads (of which I have loaded none in about 10 years).

EDIT: I just checked online and they do still show .44 Mag loads with Blue Dot at a charge of 13.7 for a 240 GR JHP.

Rob

During the latest review Alliant Powder discovered that Alliant Powder's Blue Dot® should not be used in the following applications:
•Blue Dot® should NOT be used in the 357 Magnum load using the 125 grain projectile (Blue Dot® recipes with heavier bullet weights as specified in Alliant Powders Reloading Guide are acceptable for use).
•Blue Dot® should NOT be used in the 41 Magnum cartridge (all bullet weights).

Use of Blue Dot® in the above cases may cause a high pressure situation that could cause property damage and serious personal injury.

This is from Alliant's website. Has been out for awhile now.

FWIW

 

[GF1]

I've been using 17gr/2400 w/ 215 hard cast SWCs for over 25 years in the .41 Magnum, and consider it near-perfect. Incidentally, I find 17.5 gr/2400 w/ a 210 gr jacketed SP or HP prints to the same POI inside of 75 yards. I use Starline and Remington brass, Fed 150s (magnum primers not required w/ 2400), firm roll crimp. I shoot a trio of M57s, no dashes.

These loads are marvelously accurate and consistent. I've tried somewhat hotter loads, but found these a bit more accurate and still running about 1200 fps.

 

[Missionary]

Good morning
I am looking at an old out of print book that gives info for the 41028 which weights 212 grains and 3 grains amounts to near nothing.
Any lead bullet that falls within 10 grains of a listed load is going to do just fine unless someone was to jump to a max load with no workup. Cast bullet can be loaded using jacket loads as long as weights are near equal, the bullet can withstand the base thrust & case capacity is not reduced.
Mike in Peru