washerman
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Recommend a 410 semi-auto shotgun for my wife? Found many pump actions but not what i am looking for. Want a reliable one for sure.
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rkittine
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My .410 Semi is a Remington 1100. Keep them clean and they are very reliable. What kind of shooting is she planning on doing with it?
It's hard too find any kind of shells now but when things open up I would try Winchester 20 ga. low noise, low recoil shells. They have 7/8 oz. shot but only 980 fps. They will break anything on the Skeet field. Larry
1100 is about the only common reasonable choice in a 410 semi. The 410 puts shooter ar serious disadvantage shooting anything. Many guys who are shotgun nuts always say it’s better to get a kid a 20g and light loads.
Today that is double true. Without present panic, 410 ammo is expensive. The demise of single barrel shotguns caused this. About any woman or kid that could comfortably handle a 410 pump or semi could handle a 20g. Now 410 is making a comeback as SD and HD weapons and ammo is now specialty (price). A 1100Lt 20g 23/4” with target loads is pretty tame gun.
Today that is double true. Without present panic, 410 ammo is expensive. The demise of single barrel shotguns caused this. About any woman or kid that could comfortably handle a 410 pump or semi could handle a 20g. Now 410 is making a comeback as SD and HD weapons and ammo is now specialty (price). A 1100Lt 20g 23/4” with target loads is pretty tame gun.
Keep in mind the .410 is an Experts gun, and will discourage a new shooter with the inability to hit targets as they learn.
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I have a Weatherby SA08 in 28 gauge. Great gun. I don't know if they ever made it in .410 bore. But 28 is a very nice round and doesn't recoil much.
ggibson511960
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Topic drift. The OP asked for opinions on a good .410 semi-automatic, not alternate gauges. In the new age of scarcity of ammunition a .410 makes a lot of sense. Factory .410 ammunition is more expensive, but not that much more if comparing apples to apples, say Winchester AA in case quantity. Reloaded .410's are just over half the cost of larger gauges. I would quibble a bit with those who say the .410 is an expert's gun and not for beginners. I shoot a bit of very casual skeet and never feel handicapped, but rather rewarded when breaking clays. Shot leaves the muzzle at essentially the same velocity, no matter the gauge. At short range, as in flushed birds over dogs, a .410 is a superior killer out to 15 yards. The long .410 shot column gets badly upset and spread, a real handicap beyond 20 yards, but at short range it is chain blue lightning, especially without recoil induced flinching. The OP and his wife have already figured this out, or will shortly. It is an expert's gun at high levels, and not a goose gun, but for having fun at moderate ranges, it's hard to beat. Casual, average level skeet shots, myself included, can hardly tell the difference in scores. Then there are the memorable times when you beat guys shooting 12 gauges. Way back when, I did it on a sporting clays course.
I asked about a 410 semi auto because my wife had breast cancer and surgery/radiation. She can't rack a handgun...any handgun...she has some issues with most any revolver but a 22 and most of those have tough trigger pulls. So we thought maybe she could give the smaller shotgun a try and see if it works. If it doesn't...well.. i have 4 grandkids waiting! I would leave it in the closet for home protection while i am gone too. No way she can do 12 or 20 gauge (we have both).
The Tristar Viper G2 is about as good as it gets in a 410 auto. I have shot mine for several years At skeet/doves and rabbits with ZERO problems. This gun comes in 3 grades. 2 in walnut and 1 in plastic. I highly recommend it. It comes 5 different choke tubes. You won't be disappointed.
roscoepc
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I've heard that before.... All I can say is there were many, Many squirrels that were dropped with one shot from the bolt action single shot .410 my grandfather bought me when I was about 12....
I must've been Expert and didn't know it..
I've heard that before.... All I can say is there were many, Many squirrels that were dropped with one shot from the bolt action single shot .410 my grandfather bought me when I was about 12....
I must've been Expert and didn't know it..
If I am having an "ON" day I bust as many clays or kill as many doves as I
usually do with my larger guages.
I second the Tri Star. I have a 20ga. and have been looking at the .410. Beautiful wood, and great reviews.
FlyTyinFool
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Here's a thought...
You want .410 and semi-auto, got it.
Recoil is a concern, so weight probably is too.
And you're goal is home-defense / self-defense.
Have you looked at and AR style platform?
Something like an ATI OMNI HYBRID AR-15 .410GA SHOTGUN 18.5" BARREL
It fits your stated needs, should have manageable recoil, and it's (relatively) lightweight.
I haven't handled one, but I've eye-balled them with great interest.
Just a thought, other than the more traditional suggestions.
You want .410 and semi-auto, got it.
Recoil is a concern, so weight probably is too.
And you're goal is home-defense / self-defense.
Have you looked at and AR style platform?
Something like an ATI OMNI HYBRID AR-15 .410GA SHOTGUN 18.5" BARREL
It fits your stated needs, should have manageable recoil, and it's (relatively) lightweight.
I haven't handled one, but I've eye-balled them with great interest.
Just a thought, other than the more traditional suggestions.
Faulkner
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I also agree on a SxS or O/U as another option in .410 or 28 Ga. if
you need minimum RECOIL............
but before to put out all that $$$ for a new gun you might try the Winchester "Lite" 20 Ga. loads if you can find them.
$500 towards ammo can go a long way vs a new weapon.
you need minimum RECOIL............
but before to put out all that $$$ for a new gun you might try the Winchester "Lite" 20 Ga. loads if you can find them.
$500 towards ammo can go a long way vs a new weapon.
Those that I have known, bought as a novelty. Soon were sold. Short barrels, 2 1/2" shells only. No choke. Awkward for hunting. Finicky functiion.
My Tristar is a 2 1/2' and a 3" gun. Functions well with both shells.
Scharfschuetzer
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410 Semi-Auto Shotgun
I currently own and use three 410 gauge shotguns. A Charles Daily over and under skeet gun (Pre-Browning Citori), a Winchester Model 42 (Mini Model 12) and a Remington 1100.
I've dropped more game with the 1100 than with the Charles Daley OU skeet gun or the Winchester 42 pump, but that's only because I like it in the field as it has the 3" chamber which puts in on par, when shot properly, with the other small gauges. It's my go to dove gun and pheasants are DOA between 30 and 35 yard when flushed over my Brittany pointers.
I average 23 out of 25 at skeet with the Charles Daily OU or the 1100 semi-auto. When I miss, I probably would have missed with my 20 or 12 gauge guns too.
So by all means, if the wife wants a 410, with its low recoil and report, get 'er a 410.
If you decide to reload, the 410 is about as economical as it gets. A pound of powder and a bag of shot go a long, long way when loading 1/2 oz skeet or dove loads.
I currently own and use three 410 gauge shotguns. A Charles Daily over and under skeet gun (Pre-Browning Citori), a Winchester Model 42 (Mini Model 12) and a Remington 1100.
I've dropped more game with the 1100 than with the Charles Daley OU skeet gun or the Winchester 42 pump, but that's only because I like it in the field as it has the 3" chamber which puts in on par, when shot properly, with the other small gauges. It's my go to dove gun and pheasants are DOA between 30 and 35 yard when flushed over my Brittany pointers.
I average 23 out of 25 at skeet with the Charles Daily OU or the 1100 semi-auto. When I miss, I probably would have missed with my 20 or 12 gauge guns too.
So by all means, if the wife wants a 410, with its low recoil and report, get 'er a 410.
If you decide to reload, the 410 is about as economical as it gets. A pound of powder and a bag of shot go a long, long way when loading 1/2 oz skeet or dove loads.
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