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Going to start loading for the 629-3(8-3/8") barrel i'm gonna stick with one mold for hunting leaning towards a 300 grain any suggestions on nose design for this revolver ? i used to buy lbt molds but he is difficult to deal with at times so thinking noe or lyman.
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M.S.
 
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Disclaimer: I don't cast my own bullets.

However my favorite 44 mag bullet is an LBT style 260 gr. WFNGC (mostly from Cast Perf.)
Supremely accurate in my 7.5" Redhawk over 18-19 gr. 2400 depending on the brass.
The weight obviously depends on the size animal you ultimately intend on eating.
The 260 kills deer DRT.
I have read Veral Smith's book and I consider him a worthy successor to Elmer Keith as a bullet designer.
Not nearly as eloquent as Elmer but somewhat more scientific in his approach.
He must be getting up there in years and I am sorry to hear he is difficult.
(I also read Glen Fryxell's excellent tome at lasc.us)

Besides NOE and Lyman, I have read MP moulds in Slovenija are superior.
They have a design that has removable pins to create HP or FP in the same mould.
MP-molds - Bullet molds
432-640 HP

I save the big 300's for use in the 444.
 

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I don't know what you want to do with this gun but unless you are hunting big bears with it a 250gr will do a LOT. There is a mold maker called Accurate Molds that has a catalogue on their website and the molds are a candy store for us bullet casters. Here is a 253 gr 45 mold he made for me for my 25-5. His name is Tom and he can make the same mold in 44 cal or you can pick out one from his catalogue. His are works of art. I love the 3 cavity molds and I am a fan of aluminum ones. The 250 gr that he makes as a copy of the Lyman 429421 is no slouch either. All my 44's shoot that bullet design really well and they hit like a runaway train!
Murf
 

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Veral’s shop burned down Christmas day. He has no plans to reopen.
Dang that's bad news.
I guess he now graduates to the status of a legend.
Do you have a news article we could read about that?

Woodleigh burned down in Australia a few months back but they are rebuilding.
(They make a .430" 280gr. SN weldcore for the 444).
 
The 330 gr. SSK design that JD Jones and Larry Kelly developed and popularized in the 1980s is a classic! NEI makes their version, and it is a very high quality mold.
Someone mentioned MP molds from Slovenia. Lately, their deliveries have been very bad and the quality has really, really slipped. Too bad, they used to be quite good and wiling to do custom work.
 
I don't know what you want to do with this gun but unless you are hunting big bears with it a 250gr will do a LOT. There is a mold maker called Accurate Molds that has a catalogue on their website and the molds are a candy store for us bullet casters. Here is a 253 gr 45 mold he made for me for my 25-5. His name is Tom and he can make the same mold in 44 cal or you can pick out one from his catalogue. His are works of art. I love the 3 cavity molds and I am a fan of aluminum ones. The 250 gr that he makes as a copy of the Lyman 429421 is no slouch either. All my 44's shoot that bullet design really well and they hit like a runaway train!
Murf
Hunting primary use and i have many many accurate molds thank you !
 
Dang that's bad news.
I guess he now graduates to the status of a legend.
Do you have a news article we could read about that?

Woodleigh burned down in Australia a few months back but they are rebuilding.
(They make a .430" 280gr. SN weldcore for the 444).

I found this on the Firing Line forum,

“… This was posted by LeverActionGypsy on the Reloaders Network on 12/26/22

"Merry Christmas all! I thought I'd stop by with an important update about LBT molds. I was going to start apprenticing under Veral Smith of LBT Bullet molds this January and learn the art of making great bullet molds....I just got off the phone with him - the shop burned to the ground on Christmas day.

Cause unknown at this point. He just parted ways on bad terms with a disgruntled apprentice so it makes me wonder. All the tools and machinery to make LBT molds Veral made himself. Custom one of a kind machinery and tooling - all destroyed. LBT Bullet molds is over.

I asked him about getting the shop rebuilt and starting up again but he said no due to his age - which was why I was going to be apprenticing under him. He said he is going to do one more book more in depth that the last but thats it. So if you were thinking about ordering LBT molds, dont send in a payment as the site is still up. They have no power and likely the site will be up until they get power restored.

If you want an LBT mold check Ebay and look for what you want before the word gets out and the molds start going for hundreds of dollars. I'm thankful I got the chance to know Veral fairly well and have four of his custom molds, but I have to say I'm pretty sad to hear the news. I've tried most brands of molds and LBT definitely were the easiest molds to cast with. If you want what I'd say is likely the BEST design for 45ACP, go find his classic 452-230gr LFN design. At least It's become my favorite, lol. Happy New Year, all!"…”

Kevin
 
The 330 gr. SSK design that JD Jones and Larry Kelly developed and popularized in the 1980s is a classic! NEI makes their version, and it is a very high quality mold.
Someone mentioned MP molds from Slovenia. Lately, their deliveries have been very bad and the quality has really, really slipped. Too bad, they used to be quite good and wiling to do custom work.

I have this 4-cavity mold. You lose too much velocity for a S&W action. but for Super Blackhawks and Contenders it is fantastic. I cast thousands of these unsized and sold them to Muzzle loaders for use in sabots! I also liked this mold to cast up range lead as a form of ingot, then alloy with type to make harder alloys. Much easier to use then Lee or Lyman ingots!

Ivan
 
I found this on the Firing Line forum,

“… This was posted by LeverActionGypsy on the Reloaders Network on 12/26/22

"Merry Christmas all! I thought I'd stop by with an important update about LBT molds. I was going to start apprenticing under Veral Smith of LBT Bullet molds this January and learn the art of making great bullet molds....I just got off the phone with him - the shop burned to the ground on Christmas day.

Cause unknown at this point. He just parted ways on bad terms with a disgruntled apprentice so it makes me wonder. All the tools and machinery to make LBT molds Veral made himself. Custom one of a kind machinery and tooling - all destroyed. LBT Bullet molds is over.

I asked him about getting the shop rebuilt and starting up again but he said no due to his age - which was why I was going to be apprenticing under him. He said he is going to do one more book more in depth that the last but thats it. So if you were thinking about ordering LBT molds, dont send in a payment as the site is still up. They have no power and likely the site will be up until they get power restored.

If you want an LBT mold check Ebay and look for what you want before the word gets out and the molds start going for hundreds of dollars. I'm thankful I got the chance to know Veral fairly well and have four of his custom molds, but I have to say I'm pretty sad to hear the news. I've tried most brands of molds and LBT definitely were the easiest molds to cast with. If you want what I'd say is likely the BEST design for 45ACP, go find his classic 452-230gr LFN design. At least It's become my favorite, lol. Happy New Year, all!"…”

Kevin

sorry to hear that about his shop that has to suck i remember when his wife passed away i spent quite a bit of time on the phone with him he was really feeling bad as you would expect about that time i had a mold order in with him and it took forever to get then when i finally got it it was screwed up and he said to send it back then he sent it back and said tough luck then i never bought another mold from him again. well i hope he does do another book i have one of his first and will buy his new one when it comes out. and Kevin it's too bad you can't apprentice under him you could have learned a great skill !!!
 
Does any one know about these 629/44's cylinders opening under recoil i guess s&w use to do a modification can't remember what it's called but i think power customs makes a kit or has the parts to do it i'll have to call ron and ask him. i don't think i'll push it with this gun if i want a real boomer i'll get a freedom arms 44 but since i have this one i want to at least get it shooting instead of sitting in the safe!
 
Does any one know about these 629/44's cylinders opening under recoil i guess s&w use to do a modification can't remember what it's called but i think power customs makes a kit or has the parts to do it i'll have to call ron and ask him. i don't think i'll push it with this gun if i want a real boomer i'll get a freedom arms 44 but since i have this one i want to at least get it shooting instead of sitting in the safe!
 
Every firearm is different, been casting/reloading for the 44spl & mag for 30+ years. Owned lever actions, multiple 44mag bbl's for contenders, multiple black hawks, multiple ca bulldogs, s&w 44spl's and 44mags (624's/29's/629's).

The lever actions, contenders & black hawks tended to be more accurate with the heavier fn cast bullet designs (260gr+).

The s&w revolvers tended to be more accurate with cast bullets in the 220gr to 260gr swc's and type III wc's.

The ca bulldogs preferred the 180gr to 220gr cast bullets.

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180 & 200gr fn's left (ca bulldog) and 260gr fn hp's (the 640 mp mold from above post) right

Never could get that 640 series bullet (pictured above on right) to shoot in a 629-3. But I tossed a reddot on a 10" contender bbl/44mag and sighted it in at 100yds to bang on steel.
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That chicken scrath of a target doesn't look like much. I was moving the dot around on the top 3 target. Got it close and moved to the bottom 2 targets. Shot the left target and dimed the dot down 1 setting and shot the bottom right target.
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Gave the dot a couple clicks down and 1 click right and beat the heck out of the 6" steel @100yds.

It's hard to beat the "keith" style swc's in the s&w revolvers. I use a mp mold (432-256) for my s&w revolver needs anymore. The 4-cavity mold casts a 260gr solid nose/252gr small round hp/245gr large round hp/238gr penta point hp.
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Every firearm is different, been casting/reloading for the 44spl & mag for 30+ years. Owned lever actions, multiple 44mag bbl's for contenders, multiple black hawks, multiple ca bulldogs, s&w 44spl's and 44mags (624's/29's/629's).

The lever actions, contenders & black hawks tended to be more accurate with the heavier fn cast bullet designs (260gr+).

The s&w revolvers tended to be more accurate with cast bullets in the 220gr to 260gr swc's and type III wc's.

The ca bulldogs preferred the 180gr to 220gr cast bullets.

bMDc2PH.jpg

180 & 200gr fn's left (ca bulldog) and 260gr fn hp's (the 640 mp mold from above post) right

Never could get that 640 series bullet (pictured above on right) to shoot in a 629-3. But I tossed a reddot on a 10" contender bbl/44mag and sighted it in at 100yds to bang on steel.
wLHw6OR.jpg


That chicken scrath of a target doesn't look like much. I was moving the dot around on the top 3 target. Got it close and moved to the bottom 2 targets. Shot the left target and dimed the dot down 1 setting and shot the bottom right target.
7KMGHIm.jpg


Gave the dot a couple clicks down and 1 click right and beat the heck out of the 6" steel @100yds.

It's hard to beat the "keith" style swc's in the s&w revolvers. I use a mp mold (432-256) for my s&w revolver needs anymore. The 4-cavity mold casts a 260gr solid nose/252gr small round hp/245gr large round hp/238gr penta point hp.
MGkzk5b.jpg

thanks for the info any experience with that 250 devestator mold i bought ?
 
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