.45 Colt loading ??

[308 Scout]

The 2nd step does more than bell the mouth, it also expands the case.

Don

Well, If I had ever taken my dies apart, I would've known that! I stand corrected.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

...has something to do with the "grip" of virgin brass... This problem never happens once cases have been fired and tumbled.

That's correct. Factory new brass is very grippie. Sizing & expanding is noticeably harder on them. However, it shouldn't be pulling the brass out of the shelf holder.

It may be a combination the slightly smaller case rims & the shell holder's (larger) size? You could always try a new/different brand shell holder to see if it helps.

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[Dobie406]

That's correct. Factory new brass is very grippie. Sizing & expanding is noticeably harder on them. However, it shouldn't be pulling the brass out of the shelf holder.

It may be a combination the slight smaller case rims & the shell holder's (larger) size? You could always try a new/different brand shell holder to see if it helps.

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Sticky virgin brass is not new to me in the 4 calibers I load, but .45 Colt is new to me with it's smaller rim combined with Fiocchi being maybe smaller than others. I have some Starline on the way. The Fiocchi I bought came primed, I've now learned factory primed Fiocchi brass makes for fairly loose primer pockets, feels like I could seat Federal 150's with my thumb.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I have had nothing but problems with TOP BRASS brand. From virgin cases I had 75% splits on first firing!

I have in the neighborhood of 5500 pieces of 45 Colt brass, mostly bought fired from shooters who changed to a different caliber. Top Brass is the worst, with Remington (brass or nickel) 2nd and Winchester a distant third!

BTW, I've had 3 92 repro carbines and 2 Marlin 1895 Cowboy Specials, and all fire Starline 45 Scofield without and alteration, or modification. The shorter case allows 1 or 2 more rounds in the tube magazine.

Ivan

 

[Dobie406]

Problem solved, got some Starline brass in today.

Fiocchi rims: .503-.506
Starline: .506=.508
The metallurgy of the brass may well be different as well.

100 Starline sized and primed, no issues.

 

[chief38]

I use all brands including Starline, Remington, Winchester and Federal Brass and now have a Dillon 650 - NO PROBLEMS.

When I DID own a Dillon Square Deal B I used the Brass Locator Pins from the .45 acp set up on the .45 Colt Shell Plate and that solved the ocassional case popping out of the ShellHolder. The .45 Pins are a slightly tighter fit and I found them to work MUCH MUCH better than the .45 Colt Pins did.