pinduck
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I think it would be more appropriately named to call it GASP.Glen
45 GAP
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The 327 Fed does give you the option of shooting 32 H&R, 32 Long, 32 Short and 32 ACP in the same gun. The 45 GAP gives you the option of a set line anchor.
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Autococker07
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I would not put +P rounds (increased pressure by about 10%) through it for sure.... but I don't know, I am yet to acquire one, and I do tend to baby guns that are older than me
venomballistics
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Don't know why, but I laughed when I read Glock grip ergonomics, probably because I could hardly read it without stumbling.
Can anybody say
Glock Gap grip ergonomics five times?
I just tried ... got a mouth full of soap after the second time though
mc5aw
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The answer to an unasked question. The world doesn't need another obscure handgun caliber that fills no voids nor betters existing cartridges. The G in 45GAP should be changed to CR.
Rintimtin,
Yes, Springfield makes a a semi-auto chambered in .45 GAP. Guess I'm the odd man out. I have a Glock 37 in .45 GAP (PA State Police trade in). It fits my hand like a glove, just a tad longer than my Glock 23, unlike the Glock 21 I used to have. I also have a 1911 .45 ACP. I shoot them both very well. I could shoot the Glock 21 almost as well but it was a chore with the large grip frame. Bullet placement is the bottom line and I like to be comfortable putting the bullet where I want it as I'm more likely to hit what I shoot at every time. You can't miss fast enough to win! Personally I wouldn't want to be shot with either round and I don't think you would know the difference if you were. Just saying...
De Oppresso Liber
Yes, Springfield makes a a semi-auto chambered in .45 GAP. Guess I'm the odd man out. I have a Glock 37 in .45 GAP (PA State Police trade in). It fits my hand like a glove, just a tad longer than my Glock 23, unlike the Glock 21 I used to have. I also have a 1911 .45 ACP. I shoot them both very well. I could shoot the Glock 21 almost as well but it was a chore with the large grip frame. Bullet placement is the bottom line and I like to be comfortable putting the bullet where I want it as I'm more likely to hit what I shoot at every time. You can't miss fast enough to win! Personally I wouldn't want to be shot with either round and I don't think you would know the difference if you were. Just saying...
De Oppresso Liber
I like .40, it's a good round that has proven itself on the street. The .357 Sig is flat shooting and fun, but certainly isn't a .357 magnum, it's more like a hot 9mm and if you look at the ballistics tables the .40 155 grain loads theoretically outperform it (I have a Glock barrel for a 23 in .357 Sig, if anyone is interested)....
Andy Griffith
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The GAP's only use is in revolvers- it "throws" into cylinders better with moonclips. 
Everyone knows self-loading pistols are a fad anyway.
Everyone knows self-loading pistols are a fad anyway.
Dave from Pa
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FWIW there is mention of the 45 short in the Standard Catalog of Smith&Wesson 3rd edition.The only place l have ever read about it.
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I just love my G-38....it brings me such luck....
C17
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45 GAP works great to reload and shoot in my 625-8. I shoot ACP, Super, Autorim and GAP. The benefit to GAP is that brass is cheap, and when you cant find large pistol primers you can ususlly find small primers. Just gives you options. Since GAP uses small prim and ACP uses large, I never run out of ammo
There are about...
There are about a dozen handgun calibers that I would buy before I even thought about buying a GAP. I'll read up on it and see if I can find some positives.
Update:
positive - Our SC state police use the .45 GAP
negative - One of the reasons for its existence is that its thicker walls aren't as prone to blow out in improperly designed feed ramps openings. (It's not the guns' fault. I needs a stronger cartridge.)
There are about a dozen handgun calibers that I would buy before I even thought about buying a GAP. I'll read up on it and see if I can find some positives.
Update:
positive - Our SC state police use the .45 GAP
negative - One of the reasons for its existence is that its thicker walls aren't as prone to blow out in improperly designed feed ramps openings. (It's not the guns' fault. I needs a stronger cartridge.)
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Glock wanted a self-named cartridge, just like .40 S&W and .357 SIG.
In addition, the .45 GAP is a silly answer to the problem that has been expressed about the 10mm frame size Glock, which is that it is too big, too fat and has no ergonomics.
So, instead of building an ergonomic .45 ACP duty pistol, for which consumers have been begging for over 20 years now, we get the GAP in a G22 frame with a G20 slide attached.
What they should have built instead is a duty size version of the G36 - taller to hold 8, 9 or 10 rounds in a single stack mag with a longer slide and barrel.
By the way, there are very few people who can really grip the G20/21 properly, with the forearm straight in line behind the grip. Fortunately for Glock, most of the "ninja" crowd usually boast (while beating their chests) that the G20/21 platform is comfortable for fear that if they tell the truth someone will pre-judge their other perceived "inadequacies."
I for one cannot properly grip a G20/21, and I am not ashamed to admit it. The reason is not because I am not a man. The reason is because the pistol is poorly designed with crappy ergonomics.
The boys over at Glock are kidding themselves if they think the SF (short frame reach version) really solves the problem, because it does not. It is "not enough."
What we didn't need was the GAP. What we did need was a comfortable Glock in .45 ACP, even if it was simply an 8, 9 or 10 round capacity pistol, something that must give the designers over at Glock a great deal of heartburn.
In addition, the .45 GAP is a silly answer to the problem that has been expressed about the 10mm frame size Glock, which is that it is too big, too fat and has no ergonomics.
So, instead of building an ergonomic .45 ACP duty pistol, for which consumers have been begging for over 20 years now, we get the GAP in a G22 frame with a G20 slide attached.
What they should have built instead is a duty size version of the G36 - taller to hold 8, 9 or 10 rounds in a single stack mag with a longer slide and barrel.
By the way, there are very few people who can really grip the G20/21 properly, with the forearm straight in line behind the grip. Fortunately for Glock, most of the "ninja" crowd usually boast (while beating their chests) that the G20/21 platform is comfortable for fear that if they tell the truth someone will pre-judge their other perceived "inadequacies."
I for one cannot properly grip a G20/21, and I am not ashamed to admit it. The reason is not because I am not a man. The reason is because the pistol is poorly designed with crappy ergonomics.
The boys over at Glock are kidding themselves if they think the SF (short frame reach version) really solves the problem, because it does not. It is "not enough."
What we didn't need was the GAP. What we did need was a comfortable Glock in .45 ACP, even if it was simply an 8, 9 or 10 round capacity pistol, something that must give the designers over at Glock a great deal of heartburn.
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As John Browning apparently said when he was shown the 37mm Baldwin cannon, "Where do you put the cheese?"
A fair argument could be made the HS Produkt/Springfield Armory XD .45 beat everyone else to the punch in this pony show, if you just have to have a plastic .45 Auto that holds more than 7+1 rounds (or 8+1) - including the S&W M&P45. It may be a painfully ugly pistol, but they all are. The Glock is so ugly it benefits from "sympathy purchases."
mkk41
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No pics or links , but it is listed in Barnes Cartridges of the World , which is how I learned of it.
I recall reading an article about a guy who picked up a .45 auto pistol made in Mexico (Obregon?), but it wouldn't chamber USGI .45 ACP ammo. A gunsmith measured the chamber depth and found it was 1mm short.
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