4506-1 (R4) "dash 3"

cobra357 that appears to be one. The "03" on the label being the most common denominator.

Is your barrel tightly fitted to the slide, as in it doesn't drop out on its own when you remove the guide rod and recoil spring?

Almost all of my standard 3rd gen 45's barrels will come right out......practically fall out....of the slide when I remove the recoil spring assembly. Except for my two 4506-1 R4 "dash 3's". I have to work the barrels out of the slide on those two.

I know one other member here with an R4 dash 3 who mentioned how difficult it was to get his barrel in and out, so I'm curious.

BTW nice 4506-1! :) Regards 18DAI
 
Thread update.

Based on some additional posts and PM's I thought I would update this thread a little with some thoughts about 4506-1's OTHER than the R4 variant and the unofficial "dash3" subsets of same.

Lest we lose sight of the forest for the trees, EVERY 4506-1 and for that matter all 4506's, are outstanding firearms. Well made, accurate and reliable. And all look very nice too, whether it is the adjustable sight variant or the fixed sight models.

These guns were largely made when S&W made still paid attention to things like good triggers and reliability right out of the box. LE guns made later were still looked after by QA/QC people.

So, I wouldn't be disappointed in the least if I found I had a 4506-1 R1, or a 4506-1 R3 rather than the R4 that we have focused on here.

In fact, the recent 4506-1 R1 I picked up at the local pawn shop has proven itself every bit as accurate, in my hands as well as shooters more skilled than I, as my later 4506-1 R4 dash 3's.

This past Saturday I went to the range with an old friend and shooting partner. Our schedules have not allowed for a time we could meet up in some months. I brought the 4506-1 R1 and a PC 4566 45 CQB.

My friend is a former competition shooter, firearms instructor, former captain of the local Sheriffs pistol team (back when they had one) and a crack shot with just about any firearm I've ever seen him shoot. He had not shot either of these pistols of mine.

He shot the PC 4566 first. He put 8 rounds of WWB into just under 3 inches at 15 yards. One low flyer. I had a couple of low shots with the same gun and a slightly larger than 3 inch group. I don't care for the trigger on this gun as it bottoms out against the frame as the shot breaks.
He commented that he liked the gun and it was quite accurate.

Then he shot the 4506-1 R1. He put 8 rounds of WWB into a 1.25 inch group at 15 yards. "I really like this gun!" he proclaimed. "Is it a Performance Center piece too?". Nope. Pawn shop rescue that cost me $300 bucks. He found that hard to believe. "Are you kiddin me? I'll give you $400 for it right now!". Nope not for sale. I'm carrying it. "Were I you I'd sell that performance center gun and buy four more of these 4506's!"

We did some drills with the gun too. We did the 5X5X5 drill first. Place a silouette target with a 5X5 square on the chest at 5 feet and then dump 5 rounds into the square as fast as you can pull the trigger. Anything not in the square is a miss. We both shot small groups with no misses.

Then we did double taps on the same targets at the 3 yard line. We both had several instances of holes touching on the target. Again, no misses. I did notice that when going from low ready on the first shot I would center it and the second shot always went high right. Still a bullseye but at 2 o'clock to the first hit. Since I did it every time my friend noticed it and commented that I had too much finger on the trigger.

I relate this story to illustrate a couple of things. One, it is ALWAYS the indian and NOT the arrow. Two, guns are more accurate than the people shooting them. What often needs to happen after someone learns this lesson, is for them to find the gun that they shoot most accurately. For me that happens to be the 4506-1. In any variant of same!

So, don't be disappointed when you learn your 4506-1 is not an R4 or dash 3 as we here refer to them. It is still a 4506-1! Probably the finest duty, home defense, competition and self defense 45 made. By anyone! And even at the recent $700 pricing for a LNIB example, is still a better buy than other currently produced model pistols. ;) Regards 18DAI
 
R3 or R4 ??

Contacted S&W they say end of 03/96 and Revision 3! :) Not an R4 "dash 3" but I love it anyway.

Am I misunderstanding something here? I though I understood that the "03" on the box, & the late production year, meant it's a R4? A 4506 no dash (a "00") is a R1, & a 4506-1 ("03" or essentially a -3) is a R4. We're not saying a "03" can be a R3 or R4, are we?
 
BLUEDOT37 No, we are not saying an 03 can be an R3 or an R4. R4 is a revision 4 and is how S&W refers to the 4506 a small number of us here on this board call a "4506-1 Dash 3". Keep in mind, I'm no expert. I'm putting together information on these guns as it is aquired. From many sources.

Over the past year, several members have PM'd me asking if their 4506-1 was a "dash 3". They didn't have the boxes. After I advised them to call customer service to find out what revision their 4506-1 was, several PM'd me saying they were told their gun was a revision 3. A few of those fellows were disappointed by that. Hence, my previous post. A couple of those fellows followed my advice to call S&W customer service, and ask again. Both were told their guns were revision 4's on the second call. Yeah, confusing.

To date, the only constant in identifying a dash 3 was the "03" on the box label. But if cobra357 has that on his box, and his label is authentic and original.........and his gun is truly a revision 3.........then that may no longer be a reliable indicator........

As you can see, identifying S&W 3rd gen pistols is sometimes an exercise in futility. More so when trying to identify a subset within a model of 3rd gen guns. We don't know when the 4506-1 R4 actually began production (97/98 or later) and we don't know, for sure, when it ended.........or even if it has indeed truly ended.

So.........barring a post from an expert who knows and is willing to share information with us, I guess alls we can do is keep sharing information with each other, as we come across it. Regards 18DAI
 
"As you can see, identifying S&W 3rd gen pistols is sometimes an exercise in futility. More so when trying to identify a subset within a model of 3rd gen guns. We don't know when the 4506-1 R4 actually began production (97/98 or later) and we don't know, for sure, when it ended.........or even if it has indeed truly ended." 18DAI


Boy, ain't that the truth! just when I think I may be getting a handle on the 3rd Gen's, another model will come along & throw me for a loop. Of course, S&W's coding system is so "accurate"(very heavy sarcasm here!).
 
My 4506-1 With Factory Night sights

This is my 4506-1 with factory night sights. This was a retired police duty weapon The serial range is in the VDH 0XXX range. It has an extremely smooth action, and is very tight. It too is very accurate. It came with yellow follower magazines, and I was told that the yellow follower magazines work best with this variation of 4506-1. The two dimples at the top rear portion of the magazine body keep the rounds in perfect position to stop any potential feeding problems.
 
We don't know when the 4506-1 R4 actually began production (97/98 or later) and we don't know, for sure, when it ended.........or even if it has indeed truly ended.

They don't make things easy, do they?
If the "03" does end up meaning R4 exclusively, then the start production date could be a little earlier, in 1996, as several "03"s here indicate by their labels.
 
They don't make things easy, do they?
If the "03" does end up meaning R4 exclusively, then the start production date could be a little earlier, in 1996, as several "03"s here indicate by their labels.

.....or even a little earlier....as I called S&W last week to inquire about the born date for a newly acquired 4506-1 serial # prefix of VCU and was told it was a variant 03 and date of March of 95 :eek:
 
As the 4506-1 R4 "dash 3" is simply an unofficial sub-set of an existing model, the 4506-1, I don't think they merit a seperate entry on the excellent list being done by skjos. Regards 18DAI
 
I recently saw a very late production 4506-1 R4. How late? Well, the fired case envelope was dated 4-28-08.

I thought I'd report what I observed here, for the benefit of those still seeking out these fine pistols.

This 4506-1 R4 "dash 3" had fixed Novak night sights. The markings were all laser etched with no markings on the right side of the gun.

Above the trigger guard was the "three line" laser etching. First - "S&W SPFLD MA" and underneath that "4506". Below the 4506 marking was the laser etched serial number - "BEM9XXX".

The box was the very late curved blue plastic clamshell. On the label was the following information. Product code : 108271

MODEL CALBR BARREL
4506 03 .45 5

Under features was the following. M4506 5 S FNS TD***

I've no idea what the "TD***" means. Maybe someone here can clarify that.

This was the latest production 4506-1 R4 dash 3 I've seen. IF the fired case envelope date is to be believed. I've seen some 4506-1's from 2006 but had only heard of a few runs after that.

Anyways, I thought some of you 4506 fans might find it interesting, as I did. Regards 18DAI
 
My 4506-1 was delivered to a police supply company and definitely has the wide barrel hood depicted in the pic above. However, the rep I spoke with said there were no revision numbers regarding 4506's.

I'll try again and hopefully get someone who can provide more info.
 
I seen that also;)...I wanted to place a bid but knew in reality that it would eventually exceed my current budget:(.....hope someone here ends up with it:D

I'm watching that one for grins and giggles to see how high it goes.
Considering what it is and its condition, I might very well have sprung for it if the starting price had been BIN.:eek:
 
4506-1 R4 (2008)

The box was the very late curved blue plastic clamshell. On the label was the following information. Product code : 108271

MODEL CALBR BARREL
4506 03 .45 5

Under features was the following. M4506 5 S FNS TD***

Was the usual Spec. Order# missing on the label? That would corroborate the fired case envelope date.

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I have a Plain Jane 4506. Don't shoot it much but I sure like it. Wish it had S&W grips.

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