4516-1 Question

[timn8er]

Can someone please tell me if the magazines for a 4516-1
are different from a 4516? I saw somewhere on line where
supposedly there is only one magazine for the 4516-1. Will
one of the 3rd. Gen wizards please enlighten me?

Thanks!

 

[timn8er]

Follow up question: any recommendations on either the 4516 or the
4516-1? I realize that the -1 means an engineering change, but how different is it?

Thanks!

 

[mscampbell2734]

Mags are the same.

The main difference in the -1 is the round vs elongated trigger guard, and the extra weight in the -1 from where the "steps" on the front of the frame, in front of the slide stop, is deleted.

 

[timn8er]

Thanks for the info!

 

[RufusG]

I'm hazy on the details but the magazine followers were revised as the series progressed. There are mags out there that say "4516-1 only". I had one that worked fine in my 4516 no dash. I seem to recall there are three different color followers, and they all worked fine in my no-dash. I don't believe the magazine bodies themselves are different, just the followers, but I'm not sure. I'm sure someone will be along eventually with the details.

 

[Mack]

I have seen yellow follower mags marked, THIS MAGAZINE MUST HAVE A YELLOW FOLLOWER, THIS MAGAZINE FOR USE IN 4516 ONLY and THIS MAGAZINE FOR USE IN 4516-1 ONLY. I really don't think it matters much but the best mags are the last verision with the black follower and indented feed lips. Changes from 4516 to -1 are the -1 has a heavier frame and blockier slide and single recoil spring vs dual sping, inner/outer of the no dash and -2, -3 etc.

 

[Have gun-will travel]

My 4516-1 magazines came with orange followers and they are stamped for 4516-1 only

 

[Dot_mdb]

I don't own a 4516 but I have followed these threads for years. It seems that the manufacturing changes, to -1 and then to -2 were done for reliability issues, with the no dash model having the most problems in that regard. I seem to recall that less machining was done on the -1 slide to increase the weight.

I have been tempted by both the -1 and -2 models but so far have resisted mostly because I like my 457 so much.

Bill

 

[timn8er]

I thank everyone for their help. Hopefully Friday my
4516-1 will be here. It'll be my first 45 & I'm really
looking forward to getting it to the range!