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Is there any way to make the hammer of the 4566 like one on a DAO model? Or even make it completely DAO?

As much as i like ALL the 3rd gen steel Smiths I mainly carry striker fired guns in a IWB holster so what happens when i switch to a hammer model gun and i go to unholster it i end up grabbing the hammer with my thumb. This bothers me cause if i have to draw in SD situation i dont want to accidentally pull the hammer and drop it before i unholster, thus shooting myself.

I hope that made sense

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You could get a spurless hammer for the 4566. I have it on most of mine. Place a WTB ad here or try Numrichs gun parts.

Of course if you do not have a decock only 4566, carrying it with the safety on should prevent the scenario you are concerned about.

You could also contact S&W customer service, they use to convert TDA 3rd gens to DAO. Not sure if they still do. I would call and if they say no, call back again and see what the next rep says. ;) Good luck! Hope this helps. Regards 18DAI
 
Im not a fan of safeties, especially the frame mounted type. Since i carry Glocks and S&W 5946 i prefer to keep everything the same for muscle memory.

Numirch is sold out. :( Ill give S&W a call, and Jacks

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Arik said:
Is there any way to make the hammer of the 4566 like one on a DAO model? Or even make it completely DAO?

As much as i like ALL the 3rd gen steel Smiths I mainly carry striker fired guns in a IWB holster so what happens when i switch to a hammer model gun and i go to unholster it i end up grabbing the hammer with my thumb. This bothers me cause if i have to draw in SD situation i dont want to accidentally pull the hammer and drop it before i unholster, thus shooting myself.

I hope that made sense

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In the slide under the backsight is the firing pin safety lever plunger which prevents movement of the firing pin when unless the trigger is pulled. So long as you keep your finger off the trigger during the draw, the firing pin safety plunger will prevent the weapon from firing. That's assuming yours is functioning correctly. Lock your slide back and take something pointy and non-marring like a wood toothpick and see if you can push the firing pin forward and make if protrude through the hole in the breechface. If your safety is working properly you should not be able to.

This thing I'm touching with my probe is the safety plunger.
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Here I'm gently pushing on the firing pin. Notice I'm NOT touching the safety plunger. It'll go in a bit then stop and not protrude from from the breechface.
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In any event, I prefer bobbed hammers on my 3rd Gens Smiths and I have since swapped to bobbed all that came with spurred hammers.

The swap is not very difficult. Drive out 1 small pin and then pin the stirrup onto the new hammer.
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A bobbed hammer looks great too.
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They're in stock at Brownels. Good Luck
HAMMER ASSEMBLY, .260", BOBBED, MIM | Brownells


Cheers
Bill
 
Arik--Notice in Bill's last photo (with bobbed hammer installed) that the safety is on the slide. The safety is OFF and that little depression normally is colored red--caution!. If you belt carry your gun with the safety on (down) covering that red dot you can't pull up the hammer and drop it so it will discharge. Bill's 1st and 2nd pic's reveal the semi-circular safety block that prevents the hammer from hitting the firing pin when it rotates covering the pin.

You posted that you were not fond of frame mounted safeties. 4566 safeties are mounted on the slide (mine is anyway). Exactly the same as a 1911, M39, etc. Some have safeties only on the "left" side. Mine has levers both right and left. Mike's pics show he for sure has a safety lever on the right but that would be primarily for left thumb/left hand use. The left side pic is somewhat obscured but it looks like his 4566 has levers on both sides.

The safety is also a decocker. The pistol has only one trigger. Even if you were to cock the 4566 while drawing it (it won't stay cocked--no sear to hold it). When either your thumb slips off the hammer, you slowly lower it or in the event you flipped the safety off (which would allow a sear to engage holding the hammer back) you can just move the safety lever down toward the grip to decock it. No bang.

The hammer will fall on the firing pin block and even if there is a round in the chamber it won't discharge unless something isn't working properly. Muscle memory should be the same. I carried a 1911 "cocked and locked" so all I had to do is draw and the gun was ready to fire SA as soon as I flipped the safety forward with my thumb.

The 4566 is DA. Draw, clear leather and flip off the safety in one motion. It will fire only when the trigger is pulled--DA. After the first shot everything will be SA. You don't have a safety problem but I understand the desire to not have a hammer. I've done it (bobbed the hammer of a Mod 60) and liked it. DAO looks neat, can't catch on clothing and satisfies that little thing called Personal Preference. Thor
 
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Sorry thats my fault. I ment slide mounted safeties like Beretta. Those i dont like. Honestly though i dont like any safeties. My carry guns are all Glock like.

I dont mind the 1911 safety cause its the only way to carry one and its a lot more comfortable then the S&W/Beretta style

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That particular gun I posted pics of is a de-cock only thus the reason there is no red in that spot on the frame. That lever is spring loaded and returns to the fire position when released. It's

I think you'll find there are a great many of us who regularly carry 3rd gens with the M/S safety off and 1 in the pipe. No less safe in any way than carrying a DA revolver IMO. In my case anyway, I use those levers for de-cocking only. 7 or 8+1 hammer down & safety off unless it's a 629 day.

Cheers
Bill
 
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