I have the P227. Can't go wrong with either of those above
.45ACP pistol with decocker
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Agreed. Get a Sig. What was their marketing phrase " Got Sig?"
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As DA/SA pistols are my preference, almost all of the pistols in my safe have decockers. I have a number of gen. 3 S&W, Walthers, Bersa, etc. I have carried a model CS 45 for over twenty years, and qualified with it many times. That would be my choice for anyone, if you can find one.
I've found my 4566TSW to be very reliable and as accurate as many of my 1911's. It's basically a Commander size gun, with decocker only.
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To me the term 'truck gun' does not seem to go with HK or Sig. Way too nice.
Another poster suggested 3rd gen S&W autos, still around some and fairly priced for the most part.
And - there's always the brand specifically made for the truck gun niche - Taurus.
Another poster suggested 3rd gen S&W autos, still around some and fairly priced for the most part.
And - there's always the brand specifically made for the truck gun niche - Taurus.
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Perhaps I misused the term "truck gun" then. Call it my mobile traveling companion. Usually lives in the door pocket of my Yukon when I'm on the road. Absolutely does not get banged about at all.
This has been a very enjoyable thread for me so far, I'm basically a revolver shooter except for bullseye.
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This has been a very enjoyable thread for me so far, I'm basically a revolver shooter except for bullseye.
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There are plenty of used SIG P220's out there. This particular one was a police department trade in. It has a lot more mileage on it than mine, yet is still in solid mechanical condition. It would be an excellent "truck gun" for the price.
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I prefere the Sig ! I`d carry the SIG P6 for a couple of times for Duty. Its a good Iron.
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Bonkers (quite the name you have there), I did NOT say "upgrade", I said move up the food chain and gave some examples. I have been shooting the .45ACP for some 57 years now and am quite comfortable with the caliber and don't need/require any of these new johnny come lately zipperoo cartridges.
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I spotted a Sig 220 Certified Pre-Owned, CPO, in a local shop for a darn good price. It's a late model with rail but is as close to new as it can be after the re-furb by Sig. PM me if you want details.
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I have a P220 DAK Carry in my rotation. I like the DAK trigger action. It's always DA, but with a light, 6.5# pull with a clean break. Since the hammer is always down (with a positive block actuated by takeup in the trigger), there's no need for a decocker. Nor is there a separate safety.
DA/SA actions require practice to handle the DA to SA transition. The DA pull is 10.5# or more, SA is 4.5# with a long but light takeup. Safety comes from a FP block and hammer block, operated by the trigger.
DA/SA actions require practice to handle the DA to SA transition. The DA pull is 10.5# or more, SA is 4.5# with a long but light takeup. Safety comes from a FP block and hammer block, operated by the trigger.
Sig 220 or 245/220 compact.
Smith 4516 family of compact .45s
I switched from a 1911 Combat Commander and Commander to a SIG 220 (W. German) for a carry .45 in the late 80s 7/8+1........ got into the compact 245s in about 1994 when they were introduced 6+1...... in the right hands my 220 will shoot cloverleafs at 50 ft.
I have a Smith 4566 and have had 4505 and 4506s....... but just too heavy to carry IMHO
Smith 4516 family of compact .45s
I switched from a 1911 Combat Commander and Commander to a SIG 220 (W. German) for a carry .45 in the late 80s 7/8+1........ got into the compact 245s in about 1994 when they were introduced 6+1...... in the right hands my 220 will shoot cloverleafs at 50 ft.
I have a Smith 4566 and have had 4505 and 4506s....... but just too heavy to carry IMHO
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I am heading over to Denver's largest gun store this morning to get a feel for these many different suggestions. I would like to find something a wee bit thinner in the grip width than the Stoeger at 1.4" At my age, the shorter the sight radius the better (doesn't seem to shake so much) so I will be looking at some of the compacts. At the target I don't see much difference with my shooting a 4" or a 5" barrel.
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Yet another vote for the SIG P220.
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M1Lover, your right. Another vote for the P220. Just back from the gun store and as far as my hand goes, the P220 was made to fit. Now to look through the catalog and decide which one.
Thanks all,
Stu
Thanks all,
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I started with S&W DA revolvers, so the transition was pretty easy for me. If the DAK trigger had been available all those years ago, I might have looked closer at it. As it is, I'm so use to DA/SA with a hammer that I don't want to change, which is why I have little interest in the striker fired guns.
Have a P225. Always wanted one, but never got around to acquiring one until recently. P225's are still in demand, and prices keep going up. P6's to a lesser extent, but nevertheless are also in demand.
P239 sales have not been all that great. SIG did some marketing research and found potential buyers wanted "the SIG look", and the strong point of the P239, which is its svelte styling to make it easy to pull from concealment, it also its visual drawback.
So combining the two... Demand for the P225 and less than stellar demand for the P239, SIG has come out with the P225A1. This is NOT a reintroduced P225. It is actually a redesigned P239 that looks more like a P225. SIG is hoping to gain better sales than the P239 and fulfill demand for the P225. Right now only the 9mm is available, but supposedly a 357 SIG and 40 S&W will eventually be forthcoming. I'm interesting in the 357 SIG version, whenever they get around to making it.
BTW, supposedly the P225 mags will fit the P225A1, but the P225A1 mags are too short to fit the P225. Pity, because P225 mags are starting to get scarce.
Also, anyone with a P225 ought to consider getting a spare set of new plastic checkered grips while they are cheap and available from various suppliers. The original P220 grips have long been gone, and prices have gone stupid on originals.
I had a Double Eagle Officers Lightweight in 45 ACP, and have shot other variations of it.
First, though very similar, slides are not interchangeable with 1911s because of minor differences in the double action system. Barrels will interchange.
The grip frame places your hand lower than on a 1911. This results in more muzzle flip and thus a bit more recovery time and felt recoil.
My Officers model was just as accurate as any other Officers model.
Grips are what they are. No one made aftermarket replacements, and 1911 grips will not fit. Plus if you take the grips off, parts fall out.
If I come across a stainless 10mm DE at a good price, I'll buy it. Should have bought one years ago.
New parts are not being made. Whatever is in the parts pool is slowly declining.
The real pity with the DE is that Colt dropped it, instead of addressing user complaints and improving the product. Colt had a potential winner on their hands and blew it.
While you're looking through the catalog, take a look at the .22 LR upper kit that's available for it. It has a stainless barrel (threaded for a suppressor is an option), aluminum slide, and adjustable sights. Comes with two plastic magazines. My son and I have the P226 version. Accuracy is reasonable, though not target pistol stellar. It is most reliable with Mini-Mags and other high speed 22 LR. Got finicky with subsonics. Those closer to the sonic barrier did a lot better. Most target ammo is just below the sonic barrier, and they did pretty well with it. Note that unlike the problem prone Mosquito, these conversion kits work, and the slide is aluminum, not pot metal that breaks. These are well made kits. Anyway, now that 22 ammo is showing up again at many dealers and sporting goods stores, this can make for cheap practice.
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I already have a .22 Marvel/Nighthawk upper on a RIA 1911 on which Rick Hebert (1911 Custom guns ipsc uspsa) did the trigger. It is quite accurate, but you know, these days, I can load .45 for about the same price as buying .22LR ! ! Talk about an upside down world.
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