460 Buffalo Bore Problems

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Has anyone had problems with case extraction while using the 360gr Buffalo Bore rounds? Every BB round I have fired out of my 460v has had to be banged out of my cylinder.

I only fire .460 rounds, so no fouling in the cylinder. What gives?! Is this hurting my gun, or dangerous for me???
 
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Has anyone had problems with case extraction while using the 360gr Buffalo Bore rounds? Every BB round I have fired out of my 460v has had to be banged out of my cylinder.

I only fire .460 rounds, so no fouling in the cylinder. What gives?! Is this hurting my gun, or dangerous for me???
 
It sounds like you have excessive pressure! STOP USING THEM AND CALL BUFFALO BORE!!!!!
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Welcome to the forum.
 
Thanks for the warning flop-shank, I will not be firing any more of those rounds with this gun.

I've heard others saying that they have no problems with Buffalo Bore in a 460. Could this be an issue with my gun...cylinder shape, etc???
 
Grit,
Anything is "possible"?
BUT! For NOW, DO NOT shoot them until the issue is resolved with B/B!
So +1,000 what F/S said!
 
Assuming you have had no issues when using other ammo, I would say the problem lies in the ammo, not the gun. It does sound like over pressure ammo. Let us know what BB says.

BTW--Welcome to the forum.
 
I agree with what Lucky Derby said. I would just add, that if you have had any issues like this with any other loads, even if not as bad, then you might want to check the diameter of the throats in your cylinder. Tight throats will make pressures rise rather quickly. They should measure out around .451-.453. FWIW
 
If his cylinder throats measure .429-.431 he wouldn't be able to chamber a round. The .460S&W uses .45cal bullets not .44cal. Should be roughly .451-.452

Indeed, call Buffalo Bore
 
I've left a message 2 days ago with Buffalo Bore with no response. I'll try again tomorrow...
 
Originally posted by 460v LAC du FLAMBEAU:
Same problem with the BB's on my 460.

Switched to Hornady for the 460 & 500...no problems.

The 200gr Hornady rounds start to get a little sticky after about 15 or so rounds. I've never had to "clean as I go" while I'm at the range...but, should I be?
 
FWIW: 3-4 weeks of EXTREMELY tough weather in their part of the world. Snow falls being measured in feet in the mountains, every three or 4 days.
 
Originally posted by Spotteddog:
FWIW: 3-4 weeks of EXTREMELY tough weather in their part of the world. Snow falls being measured in feet in the mountains, every three or 4 days.

Thanks for the heads up...we'll let them thaw out a bit.
 
No response from Buffalo Bore to numerous calls...I guess they were waiting on an email. Tim Sundles replied to my email almost immediately.

He said that he had heard this before with the most recent batch of .460 ammo, but it would only be speculation as to the culprit. Tim went on to say how they test each batch of ammo and that there were no issues with their test guns--he suggested that it was possible that S&W was making 460's with tighter tolerances.

No consolation was offered. I think that I will send my 460 in to S&W to get checked out.

My main issue is that apparently other 460 owners can use Buffalo Bore ammo with no problems and I can't...either BB loads are inconsistent or the revolvers are.
 
I have been having problems in my 460 with handload cases getting stuck. 370gr and 265 gr bullets. I use lilgun powder and hornady brass. On one occasion it blew a hole through the primer, that was a winchester large pistol primer, then I switched to large rifle. My cylinder throat measures right at .450. would crimping the bullet to much be a problem?
 
While I know NOTHING of this caliber and loading, typically yes, too much crimp will raise pressure. However how much crimp "too much" is, at the raggy end of the performance spectrum that load operates in, is open to debate? Does any reloading manufacturer, propellant or primer maker recommending the use of rifle primers for it? If so, she's running pretty high pressure's to start with.
 
In the Hornady reloading manual it sayes to use large rifle primers. I have also been discussing this problem on the reloading part. The discussion is named, "Cases stuck in my cylinder"
 
Mind if I ask some questions and make some suggestions?

Have you shot any .45 Colt or .454 Casull rounds in the cylinder prior to firing it with .460's? If you have, there will be a ever so slight ring of carbon in those chambers and it will cause signs of overpressure and very hard extraction.

Another thing that I have noticed from/while shooting mine and obtaining groups shot from each particular chamber...(I'm probably the only one that has done this), is that chambers that do not have a round or brass in them will get a good coating of burned powder in them and can become troublesome when you start to use those chambers. This usually happens when you put only one or two rounds in the cylinder at a time and fire them that way. When you choose a chamber that didn't have a round in it when the others went off- it becomes sticky when fired.

.460s must be kept clean in order to function flawlessly. Remember, these revolvers push the envelope of pressure on the design.
Think of it as a fine sportscar...it takes a bit more maintenance than the family mini-van.
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If those aren't what's troubling you,
then it's the ammunition.


One other thing...please be careful of pierced primers!!! I had a buddy at the range that used pistol primers instead of rifle ones, and after shooting a box of his hand loaded "hot" rounds, which incidentally pierced the primers, the flame cutting had disintegrated the firing pin and cut the recoil shield around the firing pin hole.
 
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