Beans
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About 6 weeks ago at our local range just a few miles from a military base here in southern AZ, a couple of guys showed up and shot a couple hundred rounds out of an M4 carbine. They fired it semi auto So my best guess it is civilian gun.
They were dressed in civilian clothing and military/LEO in apperance/ carriage/demeanor IE" Clean, neat and physically fit, civilian haircuts no high & tight.
I was a RSO on the range at the time and they left their brass telling me I could have it if I wanted so. So I jumped on it.
I was sorting the brass by headstamp. and i found that:
The cases are marked or unmarked with the following information.
6 O'clock ------------5.56
9 O'clock-------------is the NATO mark of a + inside a circle.
3 O'clock------------- 09
The case neck in annealed (discolored) Typical of the military brass i normally see.
The primer is silver colored and is crimped in place with a full circle crimp.
I used a lupe to see if it had been reloaded and there were no signs of it being a reloaded cartridge and you could see the crimp was still over the stuck primer.
This is the first brass I have seen without a headstamp noting the maker since the Vietnam war era.
But the date stamp 09 indicated it is of recent manufacture.
Anyone have any ideas on the origin of the brass.
The Lake City 5.56 brass that I picked up a the same time had a brass colored primer.
They were dressed in civilian clothing and military/LEO in apperance/ carriage/demeanor IE" Clean, neat and physically fit, civilian haircuts no high & tight.
I was a RSO on the range at the time and they left their brass telling me I could have it if I wanted so. So I jumped on it.
I was sorting the brass by headstamp. and i found that:
The cases are marked or unmarked with the following information.
6 O'clock ------------5.56
9 O'clock-------------is the NATO mark of a + inside a circle.
3 O'clock------------- 09
The case neck in annealed (discolored) Typical of the military brass i normally see.
The primer is silver colored and is crimped in place with a full circle crimp.
I used a lupe to see if it had been reloaded and there were no signs of it being a reloaded cartridge and you could see the crimp was still over the stuck primer.
This is the first brass I have seen without a headstamp noting the maker since the Vietnam war era.
But the date stamp 09 indicated it is of recent manufacture.
Anyone have any ideas on the origin of the brass.
The Lake City 5.56 brass that I picked up a the same time had a brass colored primer.
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