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alaskavett
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If I read your post correctly you are asking of K533726? This would put it in the production and shipping arena of 1963. What is the caliber, finish ad barrel length of your gun? Can you post photos? Kyle
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On my list I show a Model 14-2 which is has a SN about 3000 earlier which shipped from the factory in February 1964. There should be a model number stamped inside the yoke, which would indicate if it is a Model 14 or a Model 15, known respectively as a "Masterpiece" (6" barrel) or as a "Combat Masterpiece" (4" barrel). Is it a .38 or a .22?
Something seems to be amiss here. A serial number of K533726 and a five screw frame together don't compute. Are you sure of the screw count? Where are they? There should be only three screws, definitely not five.
It is 38 cal. 4 inch barrel target hammer,adj. sights,target trigger,target grips.Inside yoke is k 5 (seperateand above) from the 33726,on the bottom of grip frame the number 119763.Gave it to my dad in the 70's was told it was a combat masterpiece and had been a Calif.hwy.patrol gun.The target hammer is polished stainless or nickel.
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Please have a look at this post:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-antiques/326458-identify-your-gun.html
We need the full information from the bottom flat of the grip frame, especially if there is a K in front of the 119763. If so it is likely a .38 Combat Masterpiece from 1951. It may have been a CHP gun; a factory letter would confirm this.
Firearm History Request - Smith & Wesson
Hope this is helpful.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-antiques/326458-identify-your-gun.html
We need the full information from the bottom flat of the grip frame, especially if there is a K in front of the 119763. If so it is likely a .38 Combat Masterpiece from 1951. It may have been a CHP gun; a factory letter would confirm this.
Firearm History Request - Smith & Wesson
Hope this is helpful.
Thanks murphydog there is a K on the bottom of the grip frame all the way to the left of frame.That info makes it even more interesting to me since i am a 1951 also.I think i will get a factory letter for this old gun.I just picked up a 629-2 3 inch full lug barrel that i was told was 1 of 3200 Classic Hunter ser.BBW 5499 if you would have any info i would appreciate it.Thanks again
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BBW is from late 1988, and the standard S & W reference mentions it - Pachmayr grip, unfluted cylinder, Target (0.500") hammer and semi-Target (0.400") smooth trigger, 3200 made in September 1988, product code 103650.
Did we mention we like photos?
Did we mention we like photos?
Yea, pictures of the .38 would be handy. It sounds like a K 38 Combat Masterpiece from 1951. The description of the hammer has me wondering what happened to it.
Yea i am going to try and get some pics. on my phone and post them.The old combat masterpiece i will never sell but would you have any idea of the value.I would guess 90%on condition,my mother has been keeping it in a dresser drawer since my dad passed in 1997.
Definitely need pictures for a value estimate.
Especially with the hammer as described.
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Thanks for the pics and the corrected serial number. The serial number is K119763. The K is part of the number. The space is a leftover accouterment from the days of swivel holes. That eventually went away.
This is an early .38 Combat Masterpiece. I think the guys have already given you a good probable date. It is not stainless (those did not show up until 1965). Your CM has a nickel finish and it may not be original. The hammer and trigger appear to be plated and the sideplate fit does not look right to me. If it has been refinished, it does not rate a 99% grade, since there is zero original finish left on the gun. That does not stop it from being a fine old piece though, and the family connection makes it priceless!
It does not have a target trigger. Instead, it has an add-on trigger shoe.
The target stocks are nice, but I don't think they are original either. The football relief showed up several years later than the age of your Combat Masterpiece, IIRC.
This is an early .38 Combat Masterpiece. I think the guys have already given you a good probable date. It is not stainless (those did not show up until 1965). Your CM has a nickel finish and it may not be original. The hammer and trigger appear to be plated and the sideplate fit does not look right to me. If it has been refinished, it does not rate a 99% grade, since there is zero original finish left on the gun. That does not stop it from being a fine old piece though, and the family connection makes it priceless!
It does not have a target trigger. Instead, it has an add-on trigger shoe.
The target stocks are nice, but I don't think they are original either. The football relief showed up several years later than the age of your Combat Masterpiece, IIRC.
"Your CM has a nickel finish and it may not be original."
It looks like an original blue finish to me.
It looks like an original blue finish to me.
The Combat Masterpiece looks original to me except for the trigger shoe and the target stocks. The stocks most likely date to 57/58 (revolver dates to 51/52) and are replacements for the original Magna stocks.
I would estimate the value at $450 or so.
Bill
I would estimate the value at $450 or so.
Bill
I find it difficult to tell from the pictures. But the OP said it looked shiny, like "nickel or stainless." So I took him at his word and assumed the bluish hue in the pics was due to the photography.
However, the hammer very much looks silver to me, without any hint of case colors. The trigger, where it shows above the shoe also looks like it was plated.
Now also look at the very front of the sideplate. That fit does not look snug to me. It looks like it was off the gun and buffed. We usually identify that as a sign of a refinish outside the factory.
Maybe I'm wrong, but those are the signs I was going by. It is possible I'm being misled by the OP's statements and by my interpretation of the pictures. I'd be happy to be wrong.
And, as my earlier post states, I agree with Doc that the stocks are a later replacement. No question about that.
The CM is the way it was when i gave it to my dad in the mid 70's the finish is blue and original.The hammer looks like it has been nickled and i think it has a target trigger (w/ trigger shoe added) that is case hardened, the shine is poor lighting.It has allways had a very light trigger so i think it has had some work on it.The sideplate does have a shiny spot but i think it is from holster rub over the years.Anyway i appreciate all of your thoughts i was actually suprised that it is as old as 1951.I will get the letter from Smith for now i'm going to put it back in my moms dresser drawer.Thanks KLW
"...i think it has a target trigger (w/ trigger shoe added)..."
Trigger shoes are made for the standard .265" trigger.
Trigger shoes are made for the standard .265" trigger.
