586-8 or 1970ish Model 19-3 PPC?

[bczrx]

Hello All,

I already have a 586-8, made in 2013. I am leaning toward adding a 70s example of gunsmithing- a S&W Model 19-3 PPC made by Cheshire & Perez of Monrovia.

I need to take my 586 down there though, as my recollection of the 586 trigger is that it is almost as good as that on the model 19. [Oh, I also have a 1957 S&W K38 6" and a 1937 Colt OMM 6" in .38sp].


A few things about my uses: I like revolvers, but- I like all handguns. I shoot revolvers about once a year, due to my life schedule.

My eyes are such that I cannot see both the front sight AND the target sharply.

I don't compete, but I love quality and the potential for precision.

I am just trying to talk myself into the Model 19-3 PPC pistol, fully realizing that: a, I will not be able to compete in PPC [not LEO] and b, action shooting is growing in popularity.

Honestly, action shooting is a better fit for my eyes, even if I relish getting 8 rounds from my 1911 into a single large hole- or 50 rounds into a single hole half the size of my fist.

I don't know the rules for ANY competitive shooting types.

So, I guess my question is: in NRA or CMP shooting events, is there an advantage of having at 586 [6" barrel] over this PPC in 6"? Like, more competitive events?


BTW, if there are more competitive events for under 6" barrels, I have either a Model 10-6 4" or a GP100 4.2".

[would having a Wondersight rear sight on the Model 10 prevent me from using it? If so, could I use a filler screw in the hole for competitions and be ok?]

 

[Jason Demond]

Hello All,

I already have a 586-8, made in 2013. I am leaning toward adding a 70s example of gunsmithing- a S&W Model 19-3 PPC made by Cheshire & Perez of Monrovia.

I need to take my 586 down there though, as my recollection of the 586 trigger is that it is almost as good as that on the model 19. [Oh, I also have a 1957 S&W K38 6" and a 1937 Colt OMM 6" in .38sp].


A few things about my uses: I like revolvers, but- I like all handguns. I shoot revolvers about once a year, due to my life schedule.

My eyes are such that I cannot see both the front sight AND the target sharply.

I don't compete, but I love quality and the potential for precision.

I am just trying to talk myself into the Model 19-3 PPC pistol, fully realizing that: a, I will not be able to compete in PPC [not LEO] and b, action shooting is growing in popularity.

Honestly, action shooting is a better fit for my eyes, even if I relish getting 8 rounds from my 1911 into a single large hole- or 50 rounds into a single hole half the size of my fist.

I don't know the rules for ANY competitive shooting types.

So, I guess my question is: in NRA or CMP shooting events, is there an advantage of having at 586 [6" barrel] over this PPC in 6"? Like, more competitive events?


BTW, if there are more competitive events for under 6" barrels, I have either a Model 10-6 4" or a GP100 4.2".

[would having a Wondersight rear sight on the Model 10 prevent me from using it? If so, could I use a filler screw in the hole for competitions and be ok?]

6" barrels have more sight radius, plus weight.

That said. I don't think it matters anymore. Most have went to something with a dot on it anyway. There could still be some rule against aristocratic sights, but no one seems to have trouble with the dots.

You might consider putting a high quality dot on your 586.

 

[bczrx]

Hi all. I went ahead and picked up the 19-3.

Now, I need to schedule time to be able to shoot it head-head with my K38 and 586-8.

I will talk to people at Aristocrat. I read some thread that a guy had them mill existing rib for scope or red dots.

It would be nice to be able to switch back/forth.

 

[Goblin]

Please post some photos. We like photos!

 

[Protocall_Design]

The Aristocrat rib is too narrow to mill for a Picatinny mount. I have seen some with a section of Pic rail set into a cutout in the top. Now there are mini red dot bases for semi- autos that could be set into a rib. Many options are out there.

If you did either, you could take off the red dot, leaving the mount in place, and still use the iron sights.

 

[jcelect]

It would be nice to be able to switch back/forth.

Sir, the process of installing a red dot or a scope on a revolver is to remove the rear sight and install a base with three holes drilled into the rear sight slot. Newer Smith & Wesson revolvers come from the factory predrilled.
Switching "back/forth" is not an easy task and requires sighting in the gun each and every time! A red dot makes sight acquisition much easier and faster in any action type shooting, especially for old eyes!
jcelect

 

[KAC]

Aristocrat has a newer style sight rib that has the Picatinny slots so you can use either iron sights or an optic.