586s are now Pythons??

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Wow! I know the "climbing prices" threads get tiresome, but this is crazy! Did anyone see the boxed 4" 586-3 that sold on GB for $2576 ?? Them's Python numbers! I love L-frames as much (or more) than the next guy but DANG! It was offered as unfired NIB and the pictures look like it was...gorgeous; but still... DANG!
 
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Explain how fake auctions benefit the seller again.
Report a non paying bidder and the cost is zero. Run a thread about the auction here exclaiming how some S&W is selling for 3 times its value. Jack up the price on the gun in your show case a couple hundred then sell it to a S&W forum member who thinks he found a great deal.

This is not news. It is a tiresome routine.
 
Report a non paying bidder and the cost is zero. Run a thread about the auction here exclaiming how some S&W is selling for 3 times its value. Jack up the price on the gun in your show case a couple hundred then sell it to a S&W forum member who thinks he found a great deal.

This is not news. It is a tiresome routine.

I don't buy it for the following reasons:

A. I (I'm sure I'm not alone)don't determine what market value is for a firearm based on one auction result, what one forum thread says it is worth etc...I use my own experiences or SEVERAL completed auction results.
B. A legitimate business owner does not have time to run fake auctions in hopes that he will get a measly couple hundred bucks for his "efforts". Said owner will focus on tried and true practices of making his business successful or else he won't be owning a business for long.
C. There are other explanations for sky high auction results.
 
Report a non paying bidder and the cost is zero. Run a thread about the auction here exclaiming how some S&W is selling for 3 times its value. Jack up the price on the gun in your show case a couple hundred then sell it to a S&W forum member who thinks he found a great deal.

This is not news. It is a tiresome routine.

This is seriously flawed thinking.

GB will credit the cost for a non bidding seller but you must relist and sell the item to recieve the credit.

And is it even possible that a member just might happen to stumble in to a dealers store after reading the thread here.

I think the odds of winning Powerball are looking about the same.:rolleyes:
 
I don't buy it for the following reasons:

A. I (I'm sure I'm not alone)don't determine what market value is for a firearm based on one auction result, what one forum thread says it is worth etc...I use my own experiences or SEVERAL completed auction results.
B. A legitimate business owner does not have time to run fake auctions in hopes that he will get a measly couple hundred bucks for his "efforts". Said owner will focus on tried and true practices of making his business successful or else he won't be owning a business for long.
C. There are other explanations for sky high auction results.

I go on multiple other forums for multiple types of firearms and this has been reported on ALL of them. It happens, believe it or not. Yes many dealers use ethical practices to sell firearms, but many are jerks who think their product is worth far more than it is, and this strategy is used over and over to obtain higher prices. I've witnessed on both gunbroker and eBay (obviously eBay would be accessories, etc not firearms)

I was told a couple weeks ago that Glocks are sold out anywhere so I better buy the salesmans Glock for more money than the couple dozen for sale within miles of where I was. He also told me the prices I was willing to pay for ammo were way to low and I wouldn't be able to find those, until I pointed out numerous online sites with cheaper prices. Those are the types of salesmen who do this. Their business thrives on fear of "these are hard to find" or "these are selling for $XXXX on gunbroker"

Hard to believe but many people do not research their purchases and believe these salespeople
 
Corvette is a great car, but it'll NEVER be a Ferrari.

586 is great too, but it will NEVER be a PYTHON


True Smith's have a better action!!!!!!!!!

:D

but $2500 is still way too high..... unless it involved adult beverages!!!!!!!


That said with the price of Pythons......... I think will drag up the prices on nice 586s.........there are a lot more 686s and both were intended to be 'working" guns so really nice one's might be scarce....... so someone looking for a nice blued gun!!!!!!

Look what the rising prices on 27s have done to the prices of 28s!!!!!!!!
 
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Two bidders with a history of multiple purchases wanted it badly enough to pay 300% of its approximate current value. Obviously this was not a consideration in the bidding, nor was a potential resale or profit margin...they just wanted it badly. I suspect this is not a trend in the making.
 
Report a non paying bidder and the cost is zero. Run a thread about the auction here exclaiming how some S&W is selling for 3 times its value. Jack up the price on the gun in your show case a couple hundred then sell it to a S&W forum member who thinks he found a great deal.

This is not news. It is a tiresome routine.
A little far reaching no?

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Too each his own on the topic of Python vs. 586/686

In my opinion, the Python has the better look and action. Colt went well beyond the call to polish them perfectly and design the action with the fewest components. It is like a fine a watch. Plus it has less failure points.

S&W over complicated their action design. Too many springs and pins and other parts. All of which make more failure possibilities. They didn't take the extra time to polish everything perfect. The only thing better is the non-stacking DA pull, and even that is terrible in some models that approach 15lbs+.

It is all who you ask. This is the S&W site, so I would assume everyone supports them.

I only own 2 Smiths. I bought a 17-4 P&R when I needed a 22 revolver because the 22 Diamondback I would have preferred was just too much. I really like it and it suits the need for a far better price. However, the polishing is sub-par. You can see machining lines under the blue and they jump out at you in the cylinder flutes. I couldn't believe it once I received the gun. Then I bought a 629-2E with the 3" barrel. I got that to be my mountain hiking gun due to the size coupled with bigger caliber. In fact, I sold my two Anacondas in favor of it.

However, I had to send it off to Frank Glenn in order to correct the canted barrel which is way too common in Smiths. The gun had barely been shot but was 'out of time' so he corrected that too. I declined an action job so I could do it myself. I can work on Colt actions all day. What I seen inside the Smith, I did not like. After getting my 12lb+ DA (Lyman doesn't go past 12lb) pull down to a reasonable 9lb, I decided that the Smith action is NOT for me.

I disliked the action so much, that I opted for a 2.5" Python over a 2.5" 686 as my snub nose 357mag revolver.

It was a 686-1 made in the first year to come out with the 2.5" barrel. It was in excellent condition but just the gun. The BIN price was $950. Very tempting, but I just didn't want another S&W action. A sole bidder got it for the $849 starting bid.

I ended up waiting for the right Python to come up and snagged a '72 complete package in good condition for 3x the BIN price of the 686. That is how much I wanted a Colt V spring action instead of a Smith action.

Again, it is all who you ask.
 
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Two bidders with a history of multiple purchases wanted it badly enough to pay 300% of its approximate current value. Obviously this was not a consideration in the bidding, nor was a potential resale or profit margin...they just wanted it badly. I suspect this is not a trend in the making.

And the winning bidder has a good history of quick payment.. so much for the shill bidding theory.
 
I have not been to many live auctions but everyone I ever went to seemed to make people nuts with buying frenzy. I have seen people pay more than new price for used items.

There are many crooked dealers and that is one reason why I no longer do gun shows much. I am sure they are not above a sham online auction. Not Gun Brokers fault either. I have bought several guns on there you just have to watch, wait and know your top dollar and don't go past that.

I did not watch the said auction and maybe it was real maybe not. All I can say even if I had that kind of money no way.
 
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