617???

You can get the blued 17 full lugged a but cheaper. I have one that I use. I prefer the non lugged 17's myself. My current tote around pistol is the pre seventeen 6". Whats it called the target master?


Jim
 
I have a Ruger Mark II and a 22/45. Both good guns and I have less in the two than what you will pay for a 617. Three years ago I bought a used 617 and the Rugers are setting. I don't see that I will be selling them, but I'll bet a soda pop if you spend that extra money for a 617 you won't regret it.
 
i just bought a new 617-6 4" 10-shot model, and took it to the range tonight for the first time. it's a great shooter.

extraction of spent cartridges is a REAL problem though, with all ammo. i could not eject any of them by hand -- had to force the ejector rod against the shooting bench.

has anyone else had sticky extraction issues with their 10-shot 617??
 
I have not had that problem.

Did you clean and lube the gun first? If not, do so and try again.
 
carbofan21 said:
i just bought a new 617-6 4" 10-shot model, and took it to the range tonight for the first time. it's a great shooter.

extraction of spent cartridges is a REAL problem though, with all ammo. i could not eject any of them by hand -- had to force the ejector rod against the shooting bench.

has anyone else had sticky extraction issues with their 10-shot 617??
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Use your favorite solvent and a .243 rifle brush chucked in a drill. wet patch-wait-brush-wet patch. repeat until wet patches are clean.

Then buy some Federal Champion Value Pack .22's. They are 36 gr copper washed high velocity rounds. I have tried MANY different rounds in my m17. The Federals almost fall out of the cylinder after being fired. There is almost no difference in the ejector rod spring pressure and ejecting a full cylinder of these rounds. They are also the most accurate in my m17.
 
gr7070 said:
I have not had that problem.

Did you clean and lube the gun first? If not, do so and try again.
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it was cleaned before i went to the range, but i typically do not apply any lube to the barrel or chambers if i'm going shooting.

love the gun, but it's going back to the mothership. it also has some intermittent timing issues in both SA and DA, and the trigger doesn't always reset after firing if i release the trigger slowly, so it won't index the next round. i'm sure they will sort it out.


duckloads said:
Use your favorite solvent and a .243 rifle brush chucked in a drill. wet patch-wait-brush-wet patch. repeat until wet patches are clean.

Then buy some Federal Champion Value Pack .22's. They are 36 gr copper washed high velocity rounds. I have tried MANY different rounds in my m17. The Federals almost fall out of the cylinder after being fired. There is almost no difference in the ejector rod spring pressure and ejecting a full cylinder of these rounds. They are also the most accurate in my m17.
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now that you mention it, the federal and remington bulk pack ammo was a little easier to extract than the cci mini mags, but still to tight to eject by hand. sounds like it might be the cylinder. i'll have them check to see if the chambers are out of spec.

thanks guys!
 
carbofan21 said:
i typically do not apply any lube to the barrel or chambers if i'm going shooting.
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Oiling the chambers will help remove spent cartridges. I can't see why one wouldn't oil the chambers. And a reason to oil the chambers is S&W recommends it. Per the manual:

"After cleaning, lightly coat the metal parts, internal and external with a high quality gun oil."

Of course this doesn't mean there isn't something wrong with the chambers, but I'd oil the chambers as recommended by S&W.
 
My first handgun at age 14 in the mid '60s was a S&W MOdel 18 - it was head and shoulders among my friends who had SA off brands, H&R
Top break, etc. Hey it cost twice as much $78 It served me well on the
farm keeping the cottontail rattlesnake population down.

I got around to replacing the long gone 18 with a 617 6" Bbl. 10 shot cylinder, and put a Coco Bolo Guy Hogue grip on it. It always
seems to tag along on range trips. It's a shooter and a lot of fun
to shoot. & most who handle it have called it a beauty.

Heck it's ( by $4 ) the most I've paid for a S&W and well worth it.

Randall
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gr7070 said:
Maybe that's because of this =>



;-)

I am kidding, even if I can't second your recommendation.
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That's a good catch, almost. same cleaning proceedure with all brands of ammo. I used to be a mini-mag or nothing at all man when it came to feeding my beloved S&W .22's. Now, I'm sold on the Federal Value pack.

When I was sorting out my new to me M17-3, I had $50-$60 worth of "target" ammo along with the mini-mags. The range master asked me if I had tried any of the Federals, and he offered a few. I thought they were beneath MY S&W revolver, but I took them anyway. Well, I got a holy &#$% smile on my face when they were the most accurate of all, and after a couple hundred rounds of other ammo, the Federals fell out of the chambers.

Can I get a whitness!
 
I will tell you that I only buy Federal value pack because they are so much better then Remmington bulk pack. With Remmington I get many failure to fire per 100 on firt strike of the hammer. For my S&W Model 41 I feed it CCI standard velocity but with the S&W revolvers they shoot Federal bulk pack real fine.
 
gr7070 said:
For the next person who might have this same decision:

As great as my S&W 617 is, it is not $350 more awesome than my Ruger MkIII.

If money is a significant factor in the decision (which is understandable) I'd recommend MkIII instead; the MkIII is a very good gun. I do like my 617 better and shoot it more often, but one won't be disappointed in the MkIII.
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Have to agree mostly. I bought a 4" ten shot 617 last June, got a little over 3K rounds through it. It's a great gun, but it's not worth twice the price of my twelve year old Ruger MKII 5.5" bull barrell stainless. It's got thirteen thou and change through it, and has been awesome.
But, "worth" is subjective, and once we're in situations where we're looking for rimfire understudies for this and that different guns, economic need is pretty much an excuse.
 
bishopm14 said:
Have to agree mostly. I bought a 4" ten shot 617 last June, got a little over 3K rounds through it. It's a great gun, but it's not worth twice the price of my twelve year old Ruger MKII 5.5" bull barrell stainless. It's got thirteen thou and change through it, and has been awesome.
But, "worth" is subjective, and once we're in situations where we're looking for rimfire understudies for this and that different guns, economic need is pretty much an excuse.
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I agree that the Ruger Mark II Bull barrel is very hard to beat and a great weapon. I have one and it will cut one hole from a rest all day long. I also love my S&W revolvers in 22LR and they also all shoot great. I also love my two S&W Model 41's as they are easy to clean and are lights out shooters.

In S&W revolvers I have a K22 6 inch, Model 17-4 8 3/8 (Laser Beam), 17-4 6inch, 18-4, 18-3, 617 no dash, and two Model 41's. I shoot them all and they are all great and the market prices on them are based on demand and availability.

Ruger Mark II
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S&W Model 41
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17's and 617's are fantastic revolvers, but as you indicated, they are more than a decent semi-auto. If you are just looking for a decent .22 for plinking, informal target shooting etc and don't want to break the bank, go for an older Ruger MK II or a Browning Buckmark, either one should serve you well and for a few bucks less than a 617,
 
Nice coincidence. The day before this thread got going I ordered a 617, 4 inch, for the express purpose of practicing for IDA SSR class. I shoot a 686 Pro Series (which I really, really like a LOT!) and figure that the cheap .22 will pay dividends when shooting for real in IDPA matches. Reading all of this is very affirming, especially given the price of the 617!
 
I LOVE my 617 and would recommend one to anyone looking for a quality .22 revolver.
That being said, I also have a few of the 422/622 series of .22's, which are the 'Poor Man's' version of the Model 41.
I will have a 41 one of these days.
Here are a couple of mine to help make the decision even more difficult. Ed

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