627-0 Help

[soonerbb]

Looking at a 627-0/5.5" barrel/unfluted cylinder/Nill wood grips/no box-no papers/says unfired??/asking $1700.00 or OBO../...I know we pay more, but is this price even close.....Thanks.....Guy

 

[colt_saa]

That certainly sounds high to those of us in the FREE States.

For a highly desirable revolver that is already located in a Draconian state, it does not sound too high

Personally, I would bargain the price down since the original Combat stocks are not included and the box and tools are missing

Without inspection I would highly doubt it is unfired since leaving the factory. After all, why would someone unbox the revolver and change out the grips and then never fire it ? That is just tough for me to believe

How much did the last example of Smith and Wesson product code 101024 (any engineering revision) sell for in California?

If you really want it, you just have to bite the bullet

 

[ken158]

I have had 2 of those and each brought $1400 with box, correct grips and paperwork. I know CA generally pays more but consider the cost of getting the correct grips and the price is too high.

 

[Nightowl]

Look carefully! It may have just been really well cleaned. However, they only made about 5200 of the 627 & 627-0 guns. They increase in price every time I see one for sale. They are great shooters, so you just have to determine how bad you want it.

 

[colt_saa]

soonerbb,
If that is the listing I am thinking of, the 627 FS ad has been running for 6 Months

That should be a clue as to the value of a 627 with no box, that is alleged to be unfired. Also if you read the text, while it is pictured with Nills grips, it is being sold with rubber grips

OK, it is a rare find

The numbers say that 5276 pieces of product code 101024 were produced in total. They began without any engineering revision and ran through the -2 revision

278 of those 5276 are the original 627 no dash revolvers

Of the remaining 4998 a HUGE majority of them fall into the -0 engineering revision.

So the -0 is the most common seen example of product code 101024, while the -2 is the rarest

No one knows where the No Dash or the -1 fall into second or third place

Mine, pictured in the second post, is a -1

And I totally agree, that these are great shooters.

The question is can the you and the seller come to terms?

 

[soonerbb]

He pm'd me with extra pics and said both grips included, i've decided to wait on this and not offer at this time, do really like the look of it..Thanks much for the info...

 

[rubiranch]

So the -0 is the most common seen example of product code 101024, while the -2 is the rarest

I know Colt_saa has seen this before. This is my 627-2.

 

[Lou_the_welder]

That guy is in soCal? I think I seen the ad. He had no takers for a long while. Even tho the original combats are 3-400 to replace, I think it's still too high(today's market.)
Maybe if it had all the original goodies, that price might be ok for a collector. I'm no collector.

 

[RG500Gamma]

Dear all,

hi to everyone! I am new to the forum and new to revolvers (coming from a rifle background). I would appreciate your expert advice on the following: I am from Germany, recently came across this 627 revolver. I have not yet seen this model shown here in the forum. This revolver shows ".357 Magnum Model 627" on the right side of the gun and ".357 Magnum" on the bore. What I am not sure about is of this is a 627 or 627-0? Could it be that this model was explicitly made for the European market? This revolver is sold for USD 1.450. So I really wonder if it is worth the investment? What do you gents think?
Thanks for your advice & stay safe!
Alex

 

[murphydog]

Welcome! There were several special runs of model 627s for the European market (the sideplate engraving is typical of these). It has the appearance of a 627-0 but perhaps the seller can tell you.

I think this gun would easily bring that amount here in the USA, but your local market may be different. We see posts from Europe with revolvers that sell for extremely low prices compared to here, but this is not one of those .

 

[hkcavalier]

Hi Alex,

To know for sure you have to open the cylinder and look on the frame. It'll be stamped there.

I believe most of the scrollwork engraved 627s were for the European market in the early 1990s, but the real experts will be along shortly (it's the middle of the night in the US).

I don't consider anything but the rarest guns (or those previously owned by famous people) to be investments. Stores of value that can be enjoyed, absolutely, but few have made it rich on buying and selling at retail. US$1450 is a good price for a 627-0 with those grips. I don't have a clue as to the collector's market in Germany, but as stated above a -1 or -2 will be more desirable in the US.

 

[Neversink n Klapperthal]

a high price today is a bargain tomorrow

 

[CH4]

I know Colt_saa has seen this before. This is my 627-2.

Isn’t the -2 missing the cool checkered top strap, stamped roll marks, unique 5.5” barrel and combats? The -2 is also MIM and has the frame mounted FP. I know it’s rare, but lacks all the cool stuff.

 

[RG500Gamma]

Dear all, thanks for your guidance so far
Maybe "investment" was not the best word to use.
I don't expect to achieve a higher price when re-selling (if ever at all). I am just looking for a good revolved @ a reasonable price.
So what I understood so far from you, this would be the case with this specifc one right?

 

[murphydog]

If it checks out mechanically it is a fine revolver.

I once owned an RZ500 but Suzuki square fours are cool bikes too.

 

[RG500Gamma]

If it checks out mechanically it is a fine revolver.

I once owned an RZ500 but Suzuki square fours are cool bikes too.

Oh yes, indeed

 

[sodacan]

Dear all, thanks for your guidance so far
Maybe "investment" was not the best word to use.
I don't expect to achieve a higher price when re-selling (if ever at all). I am just looking for a good revolved @ a reasonable price.
So what I understood so far from you, this would be the case with this specifc one right?

I owned a 627-0 and sold it. At 50 ounces empty, it was no fun for extended range sessions. I know you're limited in California as to what you can buy, but that gun would not be my first choice, and there are plenty of really nice 357 magnum revolvers for way under $1700. BTW, I sold mine (with box and papers) for over that number three years ago to a very motivated buyer.

 

[ladder13]

I’d try OBO first

There’s a member, forgot his name right now (Rex Halfpenny?), who tracks serial numbers. He’s the go to guy for 627’s, imo.

I have one, no box. One heavy sucker.

 

[RG500Gamma]

I meanwhile got two more close-ups.
So it is a 627-0 obviously. Also the vendor dropped the price to USD 1.350....I guess I need to buy...

 

[bill-in-texas]

I’m not sure if this is of any help, whatsoever but I got mine 2 1/2 years ago for 8 bills, out the door. That, of course was a screamin’ deal.

My point is: deals can be found. Maybe, not quite as low as this but, I would try to get the seller to come down. If he won’t, I’d keep looking.

Just my opinion.

 

[CH4]

I’m not sure if this is of any help, whatsoever but I got mine 2 1/2 years ago for 8 bills, out the door. That, of course was a screamin’ deal.

My point is: deals can be found. Maybe, not quite as low as this but, I would try to get the seller to come down. If he won’t, I’d keep looking.

Just my opinion.

I agree with your opinion. Paid $200 for mine a couple years ago.
However, after paying S&W $300 to repair for a broken hammer stud, a tune up, install a black front sight, and polish job, I was into her for $500.

 

[DR505]

I agree with your opinion. Paid $200 for mine a couple years ago.
However, after paying S&W $300 to repair for a broken hammer stud, a tune up, install a black front sight, and polish job, I was into her for $500.

$500 is not bad. I bought mine new in 1989 the day I saw it on the cover of Shooting Time or Guns and Ammo...cannot remember which. It is still in the box, sitting in my safe. I've shot it some, but as said above, it is heavy. I use my 4" 27 more.

 

[CH4]

$500 is not bad. I bought mine new in 1989 the day I saw it on the cover of Shooting Time or Guns and Ammo...cannot remember which. It is still in the box, sitting in my safe. I've shot it some, but as said above, it is heavy. I use my 4" 27 more.

The weight sure makes shooting full-house loads fun, but you better eat your spinach first

 

[rubiranch]

Isn’t the -2 missing the cool checkered top strap, stamped roll marks, unique 5.5” barrel and combats? The -2 is also MIM and has the frame mounted FP. I know it’s rare, but lacks all the cool stuff.

I sold it some time ago.

I thought it was cool.

 

[CH4]

I sold it some time ago.

I thought it was cool.

Yes, of course. Cheers