627 P&R… a project for an enthusiast?

[Model29-26.5]

As I am to understand it, they made a 66 and a 629 but never a 627 N frame 357 like this? Old style pre 1982?
So…. How would one go about creating this as a project from parts they would have to adjust/machine?
629 no dash frame. I don’t think any cylinder would work as none of the new are P and R and are different designs.
Barrel? The modern ones are very different.
If this were a project for the collectors/engineers and machinists out there, how would you go about creating a “627 no dash” pre 1982 style without having to literally build it from scratch.

I ask this having an interest in both Smith revolvers and great metal craftsmanship.
BTW… did anyone here see that viral video of the guy who made an 8 ball out of steel and brass?
Great work. Those are some skill sets that I have always been fascinated with.

Thanks for any input.

 

[murphydog]

The pinned barrel is easy; get an original 627-0, drill the frame and mill the barrel shank, install the pin.

A recessed cylinder from an earlier model 27 would probably fit. The barrel/cylinder gap would need adjustment, as would the frame lug, and it would have to be hard chromed to match. My guess is that member sleelslaver may have more specifics as to its feasibility.

 

[ColumbusJBR]

I can't comment on how I'd go about with your project, but I believe the viral video you're referring to is from "My Mechanics" on YouTube. Yes, worth checking out his channel just to appreciate his level of skill and attention to detail. Truly incredible.

 

[Model29-26.5]

I can't comment on how I'd go about with your project, but I believe the viral video you're referring to is from "My Mechanics" on YouTube. Yes, worth checking out his channel just to appreciate his level of skill and attention to detail. Truly incredible.

Yes! That’s the guy. A fabulous project and really well produced video.

 

[Model29-26.5]

The pinned barrel is easy; get an original 627-0, drill the frame and mill the barrel shank, install the pin.

A recessed cylinder from an earlier model 27 would probably fit. The barrel/cylinder gap would need adjustment, as would the frame lug, and it would have to be hard chromed to match. My guess is that member sleelslaver may have more specifics as to its feasibility.

I figured Steelslayer might weigh in here.
I also figured that no stainless cylinder would work.
Would Chrome really match stainless?
I wonder if Smith would send a pre drilled cylinder? I don’t even know the process there.. whether the chambers or the stops are done first. Then you’d have to route out for recesses and the extractor.
Chroming a 27-2 cylinder would certainly be the smart way to go but I’m wondering if there’s a way to get a full stainless?

 

[Retired W4]

It's steelslaVer, and I wouldn't count on S&W for that cylinder. You may have touch on it but recessing the chamber on a non-recess chamber would leave too much of a gap between brass and recoil shield. Just buy a Model of 1989.

 

[Alk8944]

If you want a revolver that is mechanically like an early Model 27 no-dash, but looks like it is stainless steel why not simply have an early no-dash hard chrome plated. Most wouldn't know the difference looking at it! Personally I don't see the point in wanting a stainless look-alike though! As long as you do not represent it as an "original " 627 no-dash to a prospective buyer there shouldn't be any problem ethically.

 

[reddog81]

Would Chrome really match stainless?
Chroming a 27-2 cylinder would certainly be the smart way to go but I’m wondering if there’s a way to get a full stainless?

Not "Chrome" but "Hard Chrome". Chrome is generally more flashy, shiny, like a high polish nickel gun. Hard Chrome is generally more matte, muted, looks like stainless.

Hard chrome was also my first thought or just buy a nickel model 27 and pretend it's a bright stainless.

 

[Model29-26.5]

If you want a revolver that is mechanically like an early Model 27 no-dash, but looks like it is stainless steel why not simply have an early no-dash hard chrome plated. Most wouldn't know the difference looking at it! Personally I don't see the point in wanting a stainless look-alike though! As long as you do not represent it as an "original " 627 no-dash to a prospective buyer there shouldn't be any problem ethically.

That would the the easy way for appearance, but this is more about the project and the “How to” and actually having a stainless “627 no dash ” as it would be.
I would never sell as stainless. I would imagine that no one would buy it as a stainless if they did any amount of research they would know it couldn’t be original factory.

 

[jcelect]

Color??????????

None of the hard chrome finishes will match the color of the Stainless steel used in gun manufacturing! If a gun in this finish is laid beside a SS gun, in good light, you will see the color difference!
jcelect

 

[CH4]

Find yourself a 5 or 6 inch 27-2 and have it hard chromed.

Although I like P&R revolvers, I also like keeping the molestation to a minimum. I prefer my 627-0 as it came from the factory. That said, pinning your factory, full lug barrel would be easy; fitting a recessed cylinder would take some work.