629 Classic shooting extremely left with 240 grain bullets

I've been trying to post this for the last hour or so, but I'm getting error messages when trying to get into the forum, anyway. My dad and I each shot 3 times, 22 grains 4227, cci 350 magnum primers, 240 grain semi jacketed hollow point. I used a rest, my dad didn't.

The shots in the box are his shots, the ones that are his are the only entry holes on that side, I have the rims of three 44 cases facing the entry holes because they're hard to differentiate from other holes in the picture (standing, freehand, about 15 yards) I should've grabbed a new box, but I think you can get a rough idea of where the shots are.
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The three on the splatter target are mine (sitting, rested on a chair, about 15 yards) I'm guessing the first one was just me getting situated and the next 2 are side by side.
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Keep in mind that I haven't touched the sights, so the rear sight is still waaay to the right.

Edit: By the way, my dads shots are 2, 3, and 3 1/2 inches away from the center of the sticky target. My shots are 3, 3, and 2 inches from the center of the target if that helps. Also, about how much adjustment is made for every click? left or right? I would say elevation is about right.
 
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Ben_hutcherson said:
If you can find some Unique, 10 grains of Unique behind a 240gr bullet in a 44 magnum case is my "go to" 44 magnum plinking load. It's a definite step above a 44 special load, but is far from a full powered magnum load. I can shoot this load all day out of my 629 Mountain Gun.

I've never used 4227 in any form or fashion, so can't offer any advice on reduced loads or otherwise.
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I have thought about switching powder, mainly because 4227 is VERY dirty and leaves a lot of unburned powder in the barrel, but I have almost 3 pounds of the stuff, and nothing else that I reload takes it. I'm thinking of just forgetting about the specials, the more I shoot magnums, the better I'm getting with it, I guess I'll just have to burn up some more rounds. :D
 
I also loaded a few 240 xtp rounds with the same powder charge and primers and shot a group VERY similar to my first, so I'm guessing bullet type doesn't have much to do with POI as long as they are the same grain. I did almost put 2 in the same hole with the xtps though.

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Maybe I missed something in your posts but it sounds like you primarily need a sight adjustment. If the POI is to the right and the rear sight is to the right, the gun is shooting where it is looking. Move the rear sight in the direction you wish the POI to go and you'll be more in the center of the target.

Again, I may have missed something as that sounds way too easy...

Ed
 
Not uncommon

I'm firmly in the camp of the trouble being anticipating recoil or having your grip a little torqued. When I was new to magnums, I shot low and right all the time. I am left handed and quickly realized this never happened with a 9mm, 32 ACP, 38 Special, etc. Found a drawing similar to the wheel posted earlier and thought it out. Voila! I resolved not to over-do it and concentrate on release and follow-through and quickly had to move the sights back to the middle of the travel.
 
I played with it a little tonight again, I'm getting better, I've brought the rear sight back to center and I'm shooting alright, but my groups are mediocre at best at 15-20 yards. I've been sitting backwards on a wooden chair while resting my arms on the top of the back of the chair for a rest, it's definitely better than a pickup hood, but it must be the reason I'm getting such inconsistent groups. Recommendations for a pistol rest? I've always used cloth sacks filled with grain for rifles, should I do the same for pistols? I've probably shot 50+ rounds since my last update, so i'm getting familiar with the gun, just can't shoot it very well yet:o
 
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I like a sand bag under my hands, with two sand bags in front, with the frame resting on them. Be advised though, that on a handgun, particularly one with recoil, you will most likely have a different POI from a rest compared to off hand.

If I were you, I would really spend the $20 or so, and buy a pound of powder that works for target level loads. 4227 is not a good reduced power powder. A powder like Unique, behind a cast 240 grain lead bullet at about 900 fps or so will allow you to practice without flinching, letting you get familiar with your guns grip and trigger pull.

Larry
 
I have developed a system that's simple to see if your flinching. With it I have cured my problems and many friends problems .. Simple load two rounds in your 6 shooter . Any where at random rotate the cylinder with out looking at it . When you shoot if the hammer falls on an empty chamber and the sights don't stay on target.....you will figure it out . My buddy's and children do this to each other all the time ( load the other guys gun with live or spent cartridge (rifles too) So you never know .it makes everyone shoot better . Fun MJ
 
One of my cousins had his brother do this for him after a shotgun blew up in his face. He was always flinching with every gun he shot, this cured him after quite a few cylinders of randomly loaded .44. Thanks for the suggestions guys. After shooting almost 200 reloaded rounds recently, I'm finding that I'm not flinching very much if at all anymore.
 
I have noticed that most new factory revolvers have rear sight adjusted more to the right to compensate for gun shooting to left. Why is this?
 
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