I want to buy one of the new 686 MG's, but I haven't found anywhere that allows a pre-order, and even if I did, I'm not convinced they will actually become a thing at this point. Even Lipsey's sounded completely clueless when I asked them if there was an estimate as to when they'd be released. I see no reason why 6 of the 7 new "no-lock" revolvers have already hit the shelves, including two which were announced after the 686, and yet still no 686. My guess is they have run into a production problem.