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Just picked up a 66-1 snubbie.
Let a friend borrow my book, can someone tell me when 82Kxxxx was made? In addition, the gun has a target hammer and trigger, they never came that way did they?
 
I cant help you with the date question, but target hammer and / or target triggers were legit options.
 
looks like a 1980 vintage

TH and TT on a snubbie, kinda odd

Id guess they were added, but dont know for sure
 
looks like a 1980 vintage

TH and TT on a snubbie, kinda odd

Id guess they were added, but dont know for sure

Lately I have seen quite a few TT/TH on 2.5" model 19's and 66's. I think it's kind of odd too, but they are out there.
 
Here's some pics, for $475 I figured I couldn't get hurt on this one. The combats aren't perfect but good enough.

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Here's some pics, for $475 I figured I couldn't get hurt on this one. The combats aren't perfect but good enough.

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mike,

looks really good :D
but i think they were add-ons....66-1's had flash chromed hammer and trigger. these are later mod's.

very nice...was this on GB? if so, i saw it on there
 
mike,

looks really good :D
but i think they were add-ons....66-1's had flash chromed hammer and trigger. these are later mod's.

very nice...was this on GB? if so, i saw it on there

410, I bought it in the classifieds right here. Turned on my computer, looked at the ads and saw it had just been posted. My fingers got tangled slamming the keyboard. :D I thought it was not original, but like it nontheless. Thanks for the info.
 
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Yes, not original but at least you have the Border Patrol trigger, which is the best compromise trigger S&W made for the K-frame. Works well for both SA and DA fire, whereas a true "target" trigger is about worthless for DA fire. That's a great looking sixgun for the money spent. Congrats to you. :)
 
Yes, not original but at least you have the Border Patrol trigger, which is the best compromise trigger S&W made for the K-frame. Works well for both SA and DA fire, whereas a true "target" trigger is about worthless for DA fire. That's a great looking sixgun for the money spent. Congrats to you. :)

Ya learn something new every day around here, thanks for that tidbit of info. :)
 
Mike,

I agree with both M29since14 and 410bore...

The target triggers and hammers weren't available even as options on the 66-1's. Neither were the grips shown on your gun. All 2 1/2's were shipped with magna's.

What a great package of gun and extras you have for the price you paid! The 2 1/2" 66 will surely be considered one of the few all-time classics of the S&W line... They are one of my favorites!:D

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Terry, so YOU'RE the guy with all those P&R'd 66's :D, I knew someone had a bunch but forgot who. Nice collection there.
I have a couple set of magna's waiting for guns, the combats don't fit my hands very well anyways, but will keep them for future use perhaps.
 
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I looked again at your pictures and noticed your 66-1 still retains the trigger stop. They were mostly eliminated with the 66-1's and I've seen very, very few that still have that feature. A very nice buy!:)
 
I tried Googling the Border Patrol trigger thing, as M29since14 mentioned it, can't find any info though.
I once had 5 M66 snubs including a like new 66-1, sold almost all except a 66-3 I have in 2 1/2 inch and this one. WHAT WAS I THINKING???? I'm working on another 66 snub.
 
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I was just looking at mine. Mine came with this paper.
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I looked again at your pictures and noticed your 66-1 still retains the trigger stop. They were mostly eliminated with the 66-1's and I've seen very, very few that still have that feature. A very nice buy!:)
 
heres mine, very nice, original except the grips, came with bananas shown in the last pic. Some called them blonde bananas that are scarce, I dunno Id just assume have the originals...

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I was just looking at mine. Mine came with this paper.
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An option, really now

This same notice came with my 4" 66-1, but it didn't have the trigger stop. Neither does my 2 1/2" 66-1.
 
When the opening for the trigger stop was eliminated I don't know. My "go to guy" with the K frame magnums has been forum moderator snw19_357 who is doing extensive research on these models, their features and options.

Maybe he'll see this thread and provide some comments. There were several changes through the years that didn't receive a dash number change or any other recognition for that matter....all can be important to serious collectors.

Many times notices like those shown in pictures here are lost as the guns change hands through the years. Just one of the reasons I like to keep a log of people I know to be original owners of all the various model numbers and frames... They can, at the very least, say what they find in their boxes without it having sifted through the hands of many people...:)
 
$475... I'll give you $500 for it =P Looks amazing, and I think you did VERY well. A 66 2.5" and Model 39 are on my short list of "guns to buy".
 
NOTICE - Trigger stop slot. I've seen that included with Combat Magnums into the mid-'80s. Was a trigger stop standard on the 14, 17, & 18 then?

When the opening for the trigger stop was eliminated I don't know
The opening for the trigger stop was eliminated from the frame around 1994 with the 66-4 (19-7) change, when they went to the drilled and tapped frame and new rear sight style.

…the gun has a target hammer and trigger, they never came that way did they?
but target hammer and / or target triggers were legit options.
Never say never!
Although the TT/TH were available options on many models into the ‘90s, it seems they were an option on only the earliest M66’s; before 1974.
It also wasn’t a cataloged option on a 2.5” M19 but like M66’s, I’m sure there are many out there that will letter as having shipped with them.
Then there’s also the “Critical Moment” 66-3’s from 1990 that had the TT/TH and trigger stop.

Yes, not original but at least you have the Border Patrol trigger, which is the best compromise trigger S&W made for the K-frame. Works well for both SA and DA fire, whereas a true "target" trigger is about worthless for DA fire.
I tried Googling the Border Patrol trigger thing, as M29since14 mentioned it, can't find any info though..
I hadn’t heard of it called that either but I like it!
One of the reasons it’s taken me so long to post this is because I was hoping to find a mention of triggers by Bill Jordan but I haven’t been able to.
Even though a TT was not a cataloged option on the 2.5” M19, two quickly come to mind that had the smooth, wide Border Patrol trigger. The matte blue Dept of State and Connecticut State Police 2.5” Model 19’s.

Neither were the grips shown on your gun. All 2 1/2's were shipped with magna's.
Yup, I agree with you. But, it does make me wonder why S&W took the time to stamp the serial number in the yoke cut of this M19 if it didn’t leave the factory with stocks that covered the one on the butt. :confused:
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Never say never?:)

The target triggers and hammers weren't available even as options on the 66-1's.
I looked again at your pictures and noticed your 66-1 still retains the trigger stop. They were mostly eliminated with the 66-1's and I've seen very, very few that still have that feature.
The trigger stop was eliminated in 1978, unless it was equipped with the optional TT/TH, which wasn’t a cataloged item for the Model 66.
That trigger stop does look to be for a .265 service trigger though. The ‘exposed part’ of a stop for a target trigger was flatter.

Even if it was customized by a previous owner, that’s still a really sweet 2.5” M66 you got for a nice price ladder13. Enjoy it as is or configure it as you see fit.
 
Thanks, snw19_357..

And there you have the answers I believe we can rely on.....:)

We all need to encourage snw19_357 to write a book on the "K" frame magnums.. There seem to be so many questions yet to be answered....

I guess if there is one single answer for anything made by S&W it's if anything could be done -- somewhere along the way they did it inconsistently from what we expect at least once, and somebody out there has it....:D
 
L13,
Thats a sweet 66. I think it looks great with the combats on it. I've got a no dash but have the uncle mikes rubber on it. I know it does nothing for the looks of the gun but man it feels good in my hand.
 
That's a beauty Mike...... now I know where you been the last week.... stalking that gun!! Now if you decide to sell that one, can I be 1st inline unless I find one sooner.. I only have a decent 19-4 snubby I picked up last year in Nickle. That's my only snubby. I just got a heads up from a local dealer that he has a 99.9999 686 snubby coming in... waiting to see it now.
 
That's a beauty Mike...... now I know where you been the last week.... stalking that gun!! Now if you decide to sell that one, can I be 1st inline unless I find one sooner.. I only have a decent 19-4 snubby I picked up last year in Nickle. That's my only snubby. I just got a heads up from a local dealer that he has a 99.9999 686 snubby coming in... waiting to see it now.

Right place at the right time, that's about it. I do like those nickel snubbies, they're beautiful, and seems like they've been coming out of the woodwork lately around here.
 
Mike,

I agree with both M29since14 and 410bore...

The target triggers and hammers weren't available even as options on the 66-1's. Neither were the grips shown on your gun. All 2 1/2's were shipped with magna's.

What a great package of gun and extras you have for the price you paid! The 2 1/2" 66 will surely be considered one of the few all-time classics of the S&W line... They are one of my favorites!:D

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Terry, I will have to disagree with you there.

4" 66-1 with TT and TH and trigger stop
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410, that's interesting :cool:, now you really have me thinking about a letter. :) But wait, mine is color case, yours is flashchromed. Even more confusion. BIG DUH! I should have re-read your earlier post that they WERE flashchromed. Maybe someone saw his friend with targets and decided to do the same thing. Thanks.
 
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Terry, I will have to disagree with you there.

4" 66-1 with TT and TH and trigger stop
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See what happens when you stur up the experts?:)

I stand humbled and corrected as I often do....:D That's what I love about this place.... The knowledge base is way beyond my declining memory....:o
 
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