686 Plus Pro vs 686 SSR Pro

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This forum is a great wealth of info & I've been learning quite a bit from the collective wisdom. I'm trying to decide between purchasing a 686+ Pro or 686 SSR Pro. I still need to physically hold both & see which feels better & I am aware of the differences between each. Can those of you that have held & shot or own each of them please advise me with your review of each? I'm sure both are accurate but would "imagine" the 5" would be more range accurate which is my primary purpose. Maybe some IPSC shooting also.

I have medium size hands so the L frame is more appealing to me than the larger N frame 627 Pro, which I've decided against. As I live in NJ, I have no intent to carry, as the strong arm of the law makes that extremely difficult.

Your input is greatly appreciated!
 
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IMHO, the 6-shot is better if you plan on competing with the 686 for IDPA and IPSC. If you plan on competing in ICORE, then either will do. If you have no plans on competing, then either will do.
 
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It depends on what you want to do with it. The plus, is cut for moonclips. That is nice for ICORE and Steel Challange. It is also a 5 inch barrel.

However, 7 shots don't work well for USPSA, fire the seventh shot and get bumped to open. You could shoot it in USPSA production division.

The 6 shot needs the use of speedloaders, but would work for IDPA and ICORE retro. It would also work for USPSA. You could always get the cylinder cut for use in USPSA.

I shoot a 6 inch, 4 inch and 2 1/2 inch barreled 686s. I use the 6inch in USPSA and swap in a 7 shot cylinder for steel and bowling pins.

I really like the L frame. If you have smaller hands, you may want to try the JM grip. Might even work for you on the N frame. It is thin and smooth.

Westczek
 
Thx for the input! Not sure how much if any USPSA shooting I'd be doing with either of these 686's. Most likely not much.

Smith's website lists the 686 SSR Pro as having, Tuned Action, Forged Hammer, Forged Trigger, Chamfered Charge Holes, Custom Barrel with Recessed Precision Crown, & Bossed Mainspring. The 686 Plus Pro makes no mention of any of these features. Does anyone know if the 686 Plus Pro offers any of these features?

Anyone have any experience with both of these fine firearms they can share?

Thank you!
Greg
 
A gun that is mostly range work and other miscellaneous stuff plus maybe some competition I'd lean towards the 6-shot gun over the 7-shot.

The 6-shot is the more all-purpose model of the two and there isn't any serious benefit lost out by having one less rd. However, the 7-shot does have very real significant negatives for competition.
 
I have both

I have both, and I love the 686+. I have both cut to except moon clips and the plus really likes the moon clips when it comes to speed. If I didn't have so much in the SSR I would sell it and buy the 7" 686+
 
I have both, and I love the 686+. I have both cut to except moon clips and the plus really likes the moon clips when it comes to speed. If I didn't have so much in the SSR I would sell it and buy the 7" 686+

RK,

In your experience, which is the more accurate, which is the more balanced & enjoyable to shoot? How's the muzzle flip & recoil on the 4" vs the 5" barrels?

Does the 5" come with extra's on the SSR i.e. Tuned Action, Forged Hammer, Forged Trigger, Chamfered Charge Holes, Custom Barrel with Recessed Precision Crown, & Bossed Mainspring. S&W's website doesn't say.

Thank you!
Greg
 
RK,

In your experience, which is the more accurate, which is the more balanced & enjoyable to shoot? How's the muzzle flip & recoil on the 4" vs the 5" barrels?

Does the 5" come with extra's on the SSR i.e. Tuned Action, Forged Hammer, Forged Trigger, Chamfered Charge Holes, Custom Barrel with Recessed Precision Crown, & Bossed Mainspring. S&W's website doesn't say.

Thank you!
Greg

I have had the SSR since they came out. I have put it on a pistol rest at 25 yards it is quite accurate, even though it was not meant for shooting at that distance. The action is quite smooth somewhat lighter than standard 686 about 10lb. double action. It loads very well with speed loaders I like the Safari land comp 2s myself.
 
The 686 plus enhancements

I have to admit that the published material is confusing. I own the Plus. The muzzle is definitely crowned. The charge holes are definitely chamfered. The action definitely feels tuned - extremely smooth double and lightened single and double. The cylinder is cut for moon clip use. Given this set of enhancements, I am going to assume it has the bossed mainspring as well. Post Script: I just checked the strain screw on the mainspring for tightness, a-ok, and the gun does have a bossed mainspring.
 
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I find it amusing that IDPA, supposedly an organization dedicated to allowing real firearms for self-defense oriented purposes (as opposed to silly set ups with comps, optics and all sorts of stuff you would not be carrying) will not allow a 7 shot production revolver which would be the choice of any thinking person for concealed carry. The 7 shot has more capacity, is lighter for carry (less steel in the cylinder) and is, according to S&W, stronger since the locking notches are cut offset in the thickest part of the steel in between the charge holes. I suppose there are all sorts of "control types" all over the place, not just in Washington, DC. :)
 
I find it amusing that IDPA, supposedly an organization dedicated to allowing real firearms for self-defense oriented purposes (as opposed to silly set ups with comps, optics and all sorts of stuff you would not be carrying) will not allow a 7 shot production revolver which would be the choice of any thinking person for concealed carry. The 7 shot has more capacity, is lighter for carry (less steel in the cylinder) and is, according to S&W, stronger since the locking notches are cut offset in the thickest part of the steel in between the charge holes. I suppose there are all sorts of "control types" all over the place, not just in Washington, DC. :)

Tell it. The IDPA rules were supposed to reduce the amount of gamesmanship in the competition. Turns out they really just changed it instead of reducing it.:rolleyes:
 
As a postscript, the actual size of aftermarket grips, such as Ahrends retro targets or the JM grips, are externally the same between K/L & N. It's the 'internal' fit that differs - and not much at that, witness the Hogue X-frame .500 Magnum monogrips, which fit the K/L, N, X, & Z frames!

I had bought my 5" half lug 686+ in '04, but thought I would like the 4" 686SSR in 05/08 when I went to a lgs to buy one. They were out of them, but I spied a new kid on the block - a 4" 627 Pro - for the SSR's price. It came home with me - what a winner! The tool-less front sight change capability alone is enough to sway me. The X8 moonclip capability helped, too. Sadly, it begot the purchase of two 2 5/8" PC627 UDRs as well as resulted in cobwebs for my only 686. Yeah, with competition in my past, save a few SPC's, the 4" 627 Pro - and some proper grips - would have been - actually 'was' my choice. But - they are all good choices!

Stainz
 
Wouldn't the weight of an extra lead bullet in the Plus more than offset the weight of the steel missing from its seven-shot cylinder?

Ed
 
Now I am confusing...

I said I own the plus, but that doesn't describe my gun. I own the 686 Plus Pro Series with the 5" barrel and the Hogue grips. Ramped under lug. The online brochure calls it an SSR in one place, but not in another.
 
I just spoke with customer service... Hold time was less than a minute... Rep said that the 686 Plus Pro Series w/5 inch barrel and 7-shot cylinder has all of the enhancements of the SSR except the trigger stop and is, in addition, cut to accommodate moon clips.
 
I have the SSR and can't say anything negative about the gun. For me, the balance is near perfect. I have put around a thousand rounds through it, mostly 38's but have fired a good amount of full house 357's also. It is quite accurate, as I am sure it could outshoot my abilities. I use it at my LGS's "fight nights" and have done a few steel challenges with it. I prefer HKS speedloaders, but have use the Safariland also. The action is very smooth now. Dry fire it a lot while watching tv to smooth out the factory trigger a little more. My advice with any L frame: check for the canted barrel that seems to be somewhat common. Also, if you can, remove the grips and check the strain screw. I have seen several SSR's, including mine, where the strain screw was backed out about halfway. This makes the trigger feel amazing, but will not reliable hit the firing pin hard enough to engage the primer. Best of luck, I'm sure you would be happy with either.
 
You can't go wrong with any S&W revolver. I bought 5 S&W NIB last year in different shapes and varieties and find that out of all the handguns I own, I spend more time with the revolvers than anything else. Buy all of the Smiths you can because their value seems to hold or increase as time goes by. They may also be the only pistol we will be allowed to own if our Government gets their way. We lost a conservative on the Supreme court with John Roberts and things are going to south from there.
 
I find it amusing that IDPA, supposedly an organization dedicated to allowing real firearms for self-defense oriented purposes (as opposed to silly set ups with comps, optics and all sorts of stuff you would not be carrying) will not allow a 7 shot production revolver which would be the choice of any thinking person for concealed carry. The 7 shot has more capacity, is lighter for carry (less steel in the cylinder) and is, according to S&W, stronger since the locking notches are cut offset in the thickest part of the steel in between the charge holes. I suppose there are all sorts of "control types" all over the place, not just in Washington, DC. :)

IDPA is first, and foremost, a game. And because it is a game, you need to have equipment rules. Six-shot makes the most sense since there are FAR more six-shot revolvers than there are seven-shot models. It only makes sense to set the round limit to six. And remember, you can use a Plus in IDPA...you just have to load only six instead of seven (which, admittedly, offers a number of drawbacks...but at least it is allowed).
 
I will try to make a long story short. I own a 686+ 2 1/2", a 686+ 6", and a 617 6" ( shoots .22's and weighs within a couple of ounces of the others and is good for targets, though the others will shoot 38 Spl which is easier on my hands than the magnum shells). In the early 2000's the only firearm I owned was a 50 year old Winchester lever action .22 rifle which I plinked with in my college days. I am a physician, and around 2003 a patient threatened my life. I cannot go into details about this at the advice of the local police department (though the story is fascinating!), but suffice it to say that this individual had access to a large number of (legal) weapons. I consulted with police officers in Plainfield, NJ (where I had my office), and in Chatham, NJ (where I lived). These are two cities as different as night and day in terms of crime statistics. Interestingly, both officers were concerned about safety at my office, and at home where my wife and son lived. They both made the same recommendation for protection in these venues. First, a revolver, not a pistol - more reliable, and easier for someone like me who had rarely seen let along ever shot a handgun. Secondly, they both STRONGLY recommended the S&W 686 (or 686+) with soft tipped shells which they provided for me. This took out my worry that if I had to use the firearm, I could shoot through the walls of my home and hit a neighbor in their home. The police also told me that getting a carry license in NJ was impossible, even under the circumstances. They decided that confronting the individual would only aggravate him. They told me to go to a range and shoot once a month until I was comfortable. The Plainfield police officer went with me the first time to orient me to handgun use. I kept the 2 1/2" revolver in my desk at work for a few years, and the 6" gun at home in my night table (my son was 21 y/o so little risk there). Thank God I never had to use them for protection. But I was hooked, and ever since I have often gone a range to shoot one or both of them (I find the 2 1/2" barrel a challenge, the 6" hits whatever you aim it at). Years later I bought the 617 for plinking and for when my hands began to hurt at the range. I have since shot many varied revolvers and pistols, from .22 to 44 mag (even one of those monster 50 cal S&W's). I find the balance, feel, and accuracy of both .357- S&W's unmatched. I have shot thousands of rounds in the 686+ 6" and it is as solid as the day I bought it. I have never had a misfire! I would recommend any/all of these revolvers, but for true protection and some "kick" at the range, the 686's are wonderful! Good luck - hard to go wrong in my non-expert opinion.
 
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