6906 in .356 TSW, Marlin Camp-9/.356 TSW, New Project - Ruger PC4/.357 SIG

[bad_man_ one]

Originally posted by 7tenz:
Turners Sporting Goods in Corona CA has six boxes of 124gr factory CorBon they found buried somewhere if anyone is interested in contacting them.

Thanks 7tenz,
I called today, they have my name written all over them.

SmithNut,
Contact forum member RSnyder, he's a great guy,
He made me one for my 5903/5906 and I put a Wolff 22# recoil spring into it to handle the power.
It cycles 100%, it's like having a .357 Magnum Auto.

Grinder, RSnyder,
I would buy quite a large amount from Starline,
But we've got a long way to go for 100,000 pieces.
I probably should start a post in the reloading section?

Regards,
BM1

 

[bad_man_ one]

Received some more information to another email.
This is a little out of my price range unless I can get forum members to commit.

Hello Hunter,
Thank you for your reply.
What would my cost be on 100,000 pieces?
How would it be packaged and shipped to Connecticut?
It could be shipped to a manufacturing company loading dock or ground level.
Shipping cost, to loading dock or ground level?
Bulk barrel packaging would be fine.
Would you be running off some to sell for your retail/catalogue sales also?
If so, what would it sell for, 100 pc., 500 pc., and 1000 pc. quantities?
Thank you again,
BM1


BM1,
The price would be $140 per 1,000 pieces including packaging.
It would be packaged in 15 gallon cardboard boxes containing 20,000 pieces each.
Freight would be paid by you using whatever shipping method you prefer.
We will skid and band the boxes and load them on a truck for you.
We are not interested in producing this caliber anymore so we will not put
it in our catalog or sell it to anyone else.
Thank you,
Hunter Pilant
Media Relations/Technical Support
[email protected]
Starline Inc.
1300 W. Henry Street
Sedalia, MO 65301
800-280-6660
660-827-6640


Hunter,
Thank you again for your reply.
That seems like a full blown retail price?
What would dealer pricing be?
I'm trying to keep this cartridge alive, but that's 14 thousand dollars plus shipping.
Can you do a little better to help keep a great round from dying a terrible death?
I would hate to see the avid followers (including me) of this cartridge
end up with a bunch of expensive paper weights.
Thank you again,
BM1

 

[rsnyder]

Now if my memory serves me right wasn't it $76 a thousand the last time it was in a catalog?

 

[bad_man_ one]

They are sure not going to give it away.
Regards,
BM1

BM1,
I’m sorry but that is the best price that we can do at this time. We have orders on the books right now through the end of the year.

Thank you,
Hunter Pilant
Media Relations/Technical Support
[email protected]
Starline Inc.
1300 W. Henry Street
Sedalia, MO 65301
800-280-6660
660-827-6640

 

[sox]

Lately, I am into weird calibers as well. I found a Colt gov't in 9x23 with .38 super conversion. In my recent reading and shooting these rounds, I love these hot 9mm's. They should have kept the .356 TSW over the .357 Sig. Makes alot more sense and the handloads seem to be smokin for the .356. Recently, I have been contemplating having my P226 fitted with a 9x21mm barrel. The 9x21 can be loaded pretty warm as well. Good luck.

 

[SmithNut]

Bringing this to the top with some specific project questions.
Was very fortunate to get a M6946 "top end" via our Classified section last week. Was thinking of having it drilled to 9x21.5 and using it with my M6946 when wanting to shoot some of the stash of .356 TSW, but now I'm thinking that is a fall back plan.
Has anyone given any thought to using a M69xx slide on a single stack version (M39xx)? I've installed it on my M3954, and it seems to function Ok now, have not tried any of the longer ammo in the standard single stack mag, but if it fits on other Smith 9mm mags, that shouldn't be a prob. I don't have any factory ammo here at the moment, gave it all to my daughter with the Stocking Dealer Auto she borrowed and never gave back (

), so after re-acquiring some I'll try the M3954 mag to see if it will fit and, hopefully function. Then I'm going to send the barrel somewhere to get it drilled out and see how the whole thing plays out.
It's been nearly 19 years since I did any substantial .356 TSW loading/shooting, so this should be fun. Glad I kept the 2000 rounds of Starline brass I bought way back when, it seems with the above emails that it's gonna be a long time til any surface again (if ever).

 

[bad_man_ one]

Originally posted by 7tenz:
Don't got a 356 tsw. I was looking at them in the 90's but never jumped. Anyway Turners Sporting Goods in Corona CA has six boxes of 124gr factory CorBon they found buried somewhere if anyone is interested in contacting them.

Got them today, they are 50 rd. boxes, I never asked, assumed they were 20 rd. boxes. LOL
$18.90 ea. X 6 = 113.40 + $20.00 shipping + $133.40 total, I'm very happy.
Thanks again 7/8tenz,
BM1

 

[Grinder]

BM1,
That was a deal !

I did some calculating and decided to go #21 in my 6904. The recoil impulse and ejection pattern are perfect with warm reloads.
My Melonite 5906 upper fits the 6904 perfectly and will probably become a 356
I also have another 356 project brewing

News at 11

 

[bad_man_ one]

Grinder,
I was very pleased with the Cor-Bon deal, it sure surprised me to get 50 rd. boxes.
Does anybody have a spare Marlin Camp-9 barrel or
one with a cracked stock that they would like to part with?
Regards,
BM1

 

[rsnyder]

bad_man_one,
A camp 9 would be an awsome little camp carbine! Let me know if you find one and how it shoots. Now you have me thinking-HMMM maybe a Hipoint 9, cheap and easy to find!
Bob

 

[PPCSHOOTER]

TRY 9 X 21 BRASS. THE 356TSW IS JUST A 9 X 21.5 JP

 

[7tenz]

Originally posted by bad_man_ one:
Got them today, they are 50 rd. boxes, I never asked, assumed they were 20 rd. boxes. LOL
$18.90 ea. X 6 = 113.40 + $20.00 shipping + $133.40 total, I'm very happy.
Thanks again 7/8tenz,
BM1

Good deal. I couldn't see them standing around collecting dust for how long. last fall I asked for a price out of curiosity and I think they said $24/50. Even that was a steal. Anyway happy shootin'

 

[bad_man_ one]

Well,
I'm down here in sunny Florida using a local town library computer and just happened to stop in to Pistol Dynamics in Palm Bay/Melbourne and had a long and most informative conversation with Paul Liebenberg, what a GREAT guy.
He showed me the originals of the .356TSW Limited with a 6" barrel with the real high capacity mags and I don't mean 15 or 17 rounders.
Also the original S&W FBI 1076 Test and Evaluation gun that was always referred to when a 1076 was in question for any reason.
It was the one that all the other 1076's were compared to, with 9, 11 and 15 round magazines that are truly one of a kind.
I will show pictures when I return home.
I was asked to not post any S/N's.
Also, on aside note, don't give up on the .356TSW round, all I can say is - IT'S NOT DEAD.
With best regards from sunny Florida, see ya soon,
Bad_Man_One

P.S.
I was told to forget about building a "blowback" .356TSW carbine, the case head will separate.
I'm not the first one to think about it and definitely not the first one to see the results first hand. LOL

 

[martialcomp]

Congrats Bad Man...

I would love to see more projects just like this one.

 

[bad_man_ one]

Here are some pictures from Paul Liebenberg of Pistol Dynamics in Palm Bay Florida.
He showed me the originals of the .356TSW Limited with a 6" barrel with the real high capacity mags also with the "Std." 5" upper.
Also the original S&W FBI 1076 Test and Evaluation gun that was always referred to when a 1076 was in question for any reason.
It was the one that all the other 1076's were compared to, with the "PROTOTYPE" - 9, 11 and 15 round magazines
that are truly one of a kind.
I was asked to not post any S/N's.
Regards,
Bad_Man_One

 

[Grinder]

WOW,
I need that 6"
Thanks for posting that BM1

 

[martialcomp]

Great pics...

Paul Liebenberg is the man...

IMHO, he is the reason that we even have PC guns in their current form.

I would love to see him back with S&W. Maybe then we would finally see some steel/alloy framed TDA PC pistols again.

 

[orangehole]

Great pics bad man! Haha finally one that grinder does not own! Lets see him wrangle that one away from Paul L! Very cool to be able to see THE ORIGINAL 1076. Going to save that picture!

 

[Grinder]

Great pics bad man! Haha finally one that grinder does not own! Lets see him wrangle that one away from Paul L! Very cool to be able to see THE ORIGINAL 1076. Going to save that picture!

Grinder will never come close to having a fraction of the PC protos out there.
But it's fun to search out some of them and purchase a few.

 

[Husky71]

I have a .356 TSW that I purchased back in the early 90s for use in IPSC competition. I also purchased 1000 rounds of 147 gr TMJ ammo and a couple hundred HP rounds too.

Also bought reloading dies and saved what brass I could and worked up reloads for gun.

Moved to CA 15 years ago and stopped competing and haven't fired the gun much since then. Am no longer reloading but am now interested in picking up some more ammo for it as I'm kind of getting the itch to start shooting it again.

The performance center gun is very nice, accurate, and easy to shoot. Made major PF with no problem and really knocked down the steel poppers.