7.65x53 Argentine

[monet61]

I have become interested in old military rifles and especially this round. I know that ammo is available from Privi Partizan for around $18.00 a box. I would like to know if any of you reload this cartridge and if you feel that reloading is justified based on cost and ease of reloading. I am going to continue to collect rifles of this caliber for a while and so will be shooting them as much as possible. Any advise or suggestions for this cartridge would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Roundsworth]

I have had, and still own, many military surplus rifles. Most of them were made in the 1800s. I handload for all of them, specifically, with cast bullets, with and without gas checks. My loads are certainly less than 'full bore' spec loads and are easy on the stocks and shooter. If I ever desired to hunt whitetail with any one of them, I can bump my loads up a notch or two. I had to search for a long time to find reduced load data. It seems that the majority of shooters prefer full loads. I do it out of necessity, due to lack of factory cartridges, which would probably be priced out of this world anyway! Good luck!

 

[ronnie gore]

military rifles

i have had several argentine rifles and formed the brass from 30-06 brass, just size in a 7.65 argentine die and trim to length. i also form 7.5 mas from 6.5x55.

 

[k22fan]

I have reloaded for a couple of 7.65 Argentine Mausers, the first rifle I hunted deer with, an 1891 and a 1909 carbine. It’s an easy cartridge to reload for. Loading data is in most of the manuals. Most data holds pressure down to the 40,000 cup level for the 1891 actions. You can warm it up quite a bit for a 1909 action. After all, the 150 grain loading Norma sold for years was advertised at 2,900 fps and they recommended its use in an 1891. Inexpensive 30-06 cases are easily shortened so you don’t have to buy factory loads to obtain brass. I like Hornady’s 150 grain spire points or mild loads with cast bullets out of the 185 grain mold Lee markets for .303 SMLEs. Reloading is half the hobby whether you save money or not.

 

[lebomm]

I, too, have had several 7.65s, and I think it is one very cool cartridge ! I've made my cases from .30-06, but using 8x57 Mauser is a lot less work. Quite easy to duplicate the military load using 180 gr. .303 bullets, and they shoot to the same POI. (Hint) If you can find it, the Canadian 8x57 loaded for their Besa machineguns in tanks has lightly crimped, non-corrosive Boxer primers and annealed shoulders and necks ! Makes da finest kind 7.65x53 cases !

Larry

 

[longaction]

Caution: When using reformed brass (especially 30-06 or 270) always make sure the outside diameter of the case neck on loaded cartridges is within specs.

 

[monet61]

Thanks to all of you for the advise. I have a bunch of 30-06 brass, maybe I'll try that.

 

[Frank46]

The 1891 argentine mauser was the first high powered rifle I ever owned.Used to be a little gun shop off Jamaica avenue jamaica Queens county. 10bucks would get you 100 rounds of 1946 issued argy surplus. Norma was the only game in town back then for commercial soft point ammo. I have three shooters, 1891 carbine, sporterized 1891 rifle, and another sporterized rifle. And about 3 junkers I keep for parts. I make my cases from rem 8x57mm brass, that until Privi started making 7.65x54mm cases. Good brass and in the little carbine definitely a "thumper" Frank

 

[reddawg2001]

7.65 x 53 ammo for sale

I have just purchased over 250 rounds of 7.65 x 53 Mauser ammunition during an estate auction in a box lot. I however do not own a rifle that fits it. I would be will to sell all of this ammo for $125.00 it appears to be military surplus. Send me an E-Mail and let me know if you are interested. I will even cover shipping.

 

[TAROMAN]

The 7.65 often likes different bullets in different rifles.
My 1891 does its best with the 174 grain .313 roundnose bullets.
The 1909 seems at its best with the .313 Argie surplus pills, a couple hundred of which I'm hoarding.

 

[Roadrnr]

I have recently come to own an 1891 Argentine and I am in need of some ammo to try it out, but I don't know how to email you. Is the ammo still available?

 

[TAROMAN]

Norma, Hornady and Prvi Partizan all load 7.65X53 Mauser.
All the cases are boxer primed and reloadable.
Graf's usually has it in stock:
Graf & Sons - 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser
Just make certain that your rifle hasn't been converted to another cartridge.

 

[Frank46]

One thing you have to watch out for are the 1909 M98 argentine rifles that were chambered to 30-06. Shooting a .308 diameter bullet down a .313 bore does not exactly lend itself to accuracy. If you find one of these rifles so chambered slug your barrel to find out the bore diameter and shoot the same bullet as the bore diameter. While I haven't had the pleasure of shooting the 1909 in 7.65x53 caliber I have shot loads in my 1891 argies. Beautifuly machined actions and metalwork. Frank

 

[planojack]

One of the finest rifles I've ever owned is an Argentine 1909, made by DWM in Berlin.It cost $60.00 at Roses Department store in 1986. It shoots my cast bullet loads in reformed 30-06 brass beautifully. Not for sale, ever.