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So I have some money that is burning a hole in my pocket and have been looking and reading about the SW 945. Are they really as great as everyone says. I am mainly a revolver guy but the reviews I have seen have me intrigued. Are they worth the 2K plus price?
 
I can't speak for everyone , but I think mine are worth it , all four of them . I think S&W made the perfect .45 when they made these guns . Everything from the trigger to the accuracy is a-one .

One of mine is a BNIB 4in . The shorter barreled ones I have no experience with outside of owning one . Others can weigh in on them .

My thoughts are to TRY and find a shooter . My first one is one , and it's what started my love affair with these pistols . If you buy a BNIB for your first one , you're going to be awfully tempted to shoot it . If you're ok with that , then by all means buy one .

Good luck on your adventure , because that's what it will be . From chasing them and finding the right one , all the way to the range , you will enjoy this .

The only bad part is you can't stop at just one .
 
I have no problem shooting them. I just picked up my first Reg Mag that was around 97% and was in the back yard right after I got home banging away. My Freedom Arms are work horses and they are not cheap. Guess what is scaring me is exactly what you said. I may not be able to stop at one.
 
You needn’t spend $2,000 and up for a 945. Market prices have absolutely been rising but on Gunbroker, the lion’s share of 945’s sell below $2k.

I always find it a bit difficult to try and describe with words what you are getting with a 945 — the trigger/sear/hammer arrangement and grips safety and manual thumb safety are indeed very 1911-like, but the pistol does NOT feel like a 1911 in my hands. I often say it this way because while it’s tough to describe a 945 without bringing up the venerable 1911, I just want to make it clear that it feels quite different in my hands.

For me, it fits better and more naturally than a 1911 and I prefer it over a 1911. (and I love a 1911)

They are irrationally well fit, you’ll notice the precision feel of the slide to frame interface immediately.

The earlier no-dash 945 pistols don’t have a firing pin lock, the 945-1 pistols use a Swartz safety that you won’t notice.

Of all the true Performance Center semiautomatic pistols they made, no single model had anywhere NEAR the different array of styles and “looks” for lack of a better term. In my experience, -all- of the 5-inch target sighted 945 pistols shoot and feel about the same regardless of which different one you are fortunate to have. Thus when choosing one for your first or for the select purpose of shooting and falling in love with, I think it makes good sense to search and select by price instead of by looks or rarity.

The shorter 4”, 3.75” and even shorter (3.5”...? is it?) aren’t really in my wheelhouse. I think those all would have been very capable tools for a working task, EXCEPT they didn’t stay in production long enough to make their mark and develop a following. So for me, it’s 5-inch target sight OR a straight-up collector gun.
 
I had an earlier 945 without the firing pin safety. The barrel/slide/frame were very precisely fitted. A very accurate and reliable pistol. I don't recall ever having a malfunction with that pistol. It does feel different than a 1911, but fit my hand well. PC precision we are not likely to see again from S&W.

BTW, I had gone to a well stocked LGS intending to buy a Colt Custom Shop gun. Examining the Colt and 945, it was readily apparent that the internal Colt machine work and fit of component parts was not in the same league as the 945. The Colt was good looking and had special features, but build quality appeared to be consistent with a regular production gun. Loose drop-in barrel bushing, Colt "battle rattle" slide/frame fit, internal machine work nowhere near as clean as the 945,etc....
 
I am partial to a firing pin safety. Used to think they were a solution to an none existent problem then I had a Gold Cup break a sear and go full auto on me. 45 through the web of your hand is not fun.
 
That’s horrific!

I’m not sure that a Swartz safety would prevent that. On the 945-1, if you have a firm strong hand grip on the pistol, the firing pin will be unlocked. The grip safety actuates a finger or perhaps “nipple” that protrudes upward from the frame and unlocks the firing pin in the slide. If you are holding the pistol in your strong hand, the firing pin is unlocked.
 
That’s horrific!

I’m not sure that a Swartz safety would prevent that. On the 945-1, if you have a firm strong hand grip on the pistol, the firing pin will be unlocked. The grip safety actuates a finger or perhaps “nipple” that protrudes upward from the frame and unlocks the firing pin in the slide. If you are holding the pistol in your strong hand, the firing pin is unlocked.

I think Kimber had that same design on their 1911. Did not want to pay Colt for the patent. One of the reasons my old Gold Cup did it was the half cock notch broke off. It was one of the old designs that was just a small piece in the middle of the hammer. The new ones are full profile across and fully cover the sear. I am betting the Smith design is the same.
 
The 945 design is the same as the Kimber. I don’t think it is the same as the Series 80 Colt design. But I don’t own any Colt 1911 pistols anymore.
 
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