9mm question

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If every one agrees that the 9mm is never fatal and hardly dangerous why is it considered assault with a deadly weapon to shoot someone with one?
 
If every one agrees that the 9mm is never fatal and hardly dangerous why is it considered assault with a deadly weapon to shoot someone with one?

Huh?
Fact: ANYTHING that fires a projectile above fifty feet per second can be deadly, even a child's BB gun under certain circumstances.
Fact: NO round from anything is GUARENTEED to be a "stopper" in a fight.
Fact: Solid rounds at a specific velocity....i.e. Full metal jacket or "Ball" ammunition tend to make a small hole going in and a small hole going out. Most 9mm ammo falls into this.
Fact: It is the ability to call your shots...to put rounds exactly where you aim them...that makes them a "stopper", so to speak.

IMHO modern 9mm +P+ hollowpoints are on a par with a .357 Magnum or a .38 Super. I use them in my Browning High Power.

BTW for a 9mm (using ball ammo) not to be fatal and hardly dangerous it has sure generated a lot of battlefield casualties in the over a century it has been in use around the world.
 
If I'm not mistaken, .22 long rifle can be a fatal round with the proper shot placement... and a little bit of luck!
 
Don't the SEALS use 9MM??

Yup for two reasons: First they are trained to hit what they aim at (so caliber does't matter). Chest and Brain shots usually stop the fight fast. Double taps need low recoil at speed. 2nd because 9mm ammo is available anywhere they go in the world.

They carry Sig P226. Salt Water doesn't hurt the ploymer frame, and stainless steel doesn't rust fast.

Plus everybody knows that the US military carries the Beretta 92. So this gives a very small amount of cloak if caught carring.

Try getting some .40cal in BumFE.

Guy22
 
I think the OP was being facetious. Or maybe sarcastic. (I can't keep those two straight.) Anyway, he waren't serious.
 
Just making a late day effort at humor. When he was young my father was shot walking to work by a kid clearing a .22 after a squirrel hunt. The shot was bad enough but in those days before penicillin the infection nearly killed him. Based on recent threads I should ask what size snake to use to beat off a bear attack:rolleyes:
 
Heads up, the Sig P226 does not have a polymer frame.
Yup you are right. I have shot two of them. Felt like ploymer. So I assumed!

The slide of the pre-1996 P226 was a heavy gauge, mill finished sheet metal stamping with a welded on nose section incorporating an internal barrel bushing. The breech block portion was a machined insert attached to the slide by means of brazing and a roll pin visible from either side. Since 1996, production has shifted to CNC machining and the slide is now milled from a single piece of stainless steel. Therefore the current standard P226 has a black anodized, stainless steel slide. This resulted in a stronger slide, which was necessary to chamber the more powerful .40 S&W and .357SIG cartridges[citation needed]. The frame of all models is made from hard anodized aluminum alloy.

Thanks,
Guy22
 
The 9mm was designed by socialists to kill other socialists. That is why it is becoming more effective over here.
O.Z.
 
Don't know about the 9MM's stopping power but Germany has been using that caliber for over 100 years. And I guess for good effect.

Good effect?
You ever watch Combat?
The only one ever killed by a 9 was a guest star. Probably one of those CA commies anyway :eek:
 
I remember a case where a guy who had been beating on his wife tried to kick in the door. Well this guy was about 6'3" and 250 pounds but his wife had a Browning Hi-Power. He flattened the door and she emptied all 13 rounds into this guy starting at his gut and walking it right up into his head, one round hitting over his left eye. I'm not sure about how well it does in every situation, but that guy is as dead as Julius Caesar.
I don't think I would ever want to get hit with a 9mm, and while its not as good as a .45 I am not eager to stand in front of it.

I'm sure there are some families that lost some GI's to 9mm pistols and German submachine guns during WWII that would differ about the round being never fatal.
 
Well this guy was about 6'3" and 250 pounds but his wife had a Browning Hi-Power. He flattened the door and she emptied all 13 rounds into this guy starting at his gut and walking it right up into his head, one round hitting over his left eye. I'm not sure about how well it does in every situation, but that guy is as dead as Julius Caesar.

Now you are talkin' 117mm there. :eek:
 
If 9mm and many other cartridges are so underpowered, how come nobody will volunteer as the target for me to demonstrate?
 
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