9mm Vs. .45 ACP carbine

The FBI is ditching their MP5/10 subguns. Reckon we could get them to release those and sell them as surplus?

That gun is on my short list of things I keep asking Santa for but don't get. (List also includes a personal Gulfstream, my own island, and Linda Carter from about 1977 in full Wonder Women garb.)

I would love to own a MP5 but if it wasn't made prior to 1986 it's a no go. Even if you could find one made prior to 1986 your looking at a minimum of $15,000.00 and that would be one in bad shape that is outside what I would or could spent for a firearm.
 
pistol carbines are great! Mine is a 40cal. Ruger Police Carbine. It shares ammo and magazines with my P944 pistol. It is the old version from 1997.
The great thing about the NEW Ruger PCC is it can take mags for Ruger pistols or Glock pistols.
(Maybe someday they will make them for S&W, Sig, Beretta, etc. Ruger can sell millions of them!)
 
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pistol carbines are great! Mine is a 40cal. Ruger Police Carbine. It shares ammo and magazines with my P944 pistol. It is the old version from 1997.
The great thing about the NEW Ruger PCC is it can take mags for Ruger pistols or Glock pistols.
(Maybe someday they will make them for S&W, Sig, Beretta, etc. Ruger can sell millions of them!)

Ruger doesn't even have to make them. It just takes a mag insert for whatever mag, which would be super easy for OEM companies to make and sell. Takes moments to change out.

Rumor also has it that barrel and bolt combos will come to change calibers too.
 
Transfer is the 'problem' word...

I was being facetious- I know there will never be a transferable MP5/10

THE FEDERAL TACTICAL FIREARM DISPERSAL ACT OF 2018.

Joining the Founders desire for maintaining a Strong Citizenry, the need of Federal Military and Law Enforcement to have adequate supplies of weaponry in times of crisis, and good fiscal policy... Henceforth Citizens in good Legal and Moral Standing are invited to maintain and Secure weapons owned by and retained for use by the Federal Military and Law Enforcement Agencies.

Upon completion of the required background check, sucessful applicants (henceforth Civilian Conservators) in the program will receive, shipped to thier door a serviceable but surplus to requirements, MP5, SAW, M60 or other qualifying Class 3 weapon complete with a cleaning kit and use Manual. Ownership of all Weapons in this Program being retained by the Federal Government. In separate shipments two metal ammunition cans will be delivered to the weapons Conservator, one to be used for periodic function checks and the second retained for Declared Emergencies. Additional cans will be shipped periodically based on the weapon type and use manual.

(Obviously intended as Humor and not as a Political commentary.)
 
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THE FEDERAL TACTICAL FIREARM DISPERSAL ACT OF 2018.

Joining the Founders desire for maintaining a Strong Citizenry, ... Citizens in good Legal and Moral Standing are invited to maintain ....

.... periodic function checks ....

(Obviously intended as Humor and not as a Political commentary.)


I'm going to the Range TODAY: It's time for a 'periodic function check'! ;)
 
My son picked up a PSA AR9 that takes Glock mags for shooting PCC class in USPSA and Speed Steel. Thing runs like a champ. His pistol is a 40 but at the matches PCC caliber are all scored as minor so using a 10 or 45 doesn't help any.
On the subject of help my daughter in law finished 12th out of 71 shooters with the PCC at a local steel match and she's not a "shooter" but a 9mm carbine with a dot can make life a lot easier and faster at shooting. Son was 1st.
That said, if you're not shooting at cardboard or a pepper popper a bigger hole could be a good thing.
 
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THE FEDERAL TACTICAL FIREARM DISPERSAL ACT OF 2018.

Joining the Founders desire for maintaining a Strong Citizenry, the need of Federal Military and Law Enforcement to have adequate supplies of weaponry in times of crisis, and good fiscal policy... Henceforth Citizens in good Legal and Moral Standing are invited to maintain and Secure weapons owned by and retained for use by the Federal Military and Law Enforcement Agencies.

Upon completion of the required background check, sucessful applicants (henceforth Civilian Conservators) in the program will receive, shipped to thier door a serviceable but surplus to requirements, MP5, SAW, M60 or other qualifying Class 3 weapon complete with a cleaning kit and use Manual. Ownership of all Weapons in this Program being retained by the Federal Government. In separate shipments two metal ammunition cans will be delivered to the weapons Conservator, one to be used for periodic function checks and the second retained for Declared Emergencies. Additional cans will be shipped periodically based on the weapon type and use manual.

(Obviously intended as Humor and not as a Political commentary.)

Are you Swiss????????????????????

:D
 
I was under the impression that a carbine could be 16" long as a minimum, a shot gun had to be 18" (except for the new exception of the Shockwave & Tac-14).

I would go for the 45 just because it would match my 1911 :D

The new Shockwave and Remington version of same can get by with 14" bbls as, due to the fine print of the law, they don't even technically qualify as a "shotgun" to begin with. They are considered a "firearm" under the law. It's all a mite confusing!

As for pistol caliber carbines in auto pistol calibers, their main benefit over a handgun is increased hit potential due to more points of contact on the weapon thus offering greater stability as well as the ability to mount optics or provide a better iron sight radius. They are simply easier to connect with at extended ranges.

They can also share magazines with the sidearm and do boost ballistics of the round somewhat. Get whichever caliber and magazines fit your sidearm.
 
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