Bajadoc
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Well, I guess if there are a lot of "likes" it must be OK.
A $10.00 S&W Model 36
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Well, I guess if there are a lot of "likes" it must be OK.
MygunisaS&Wrevolver
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sigp220.45; I would ask you to look at your moral compass as a law enforcement officer and confirm what you have posted with your Chief or Sheriff and see what they believe? The standard is higher for you and the number of likes has nothing to do with this. This lack of ethics makes me believe that I may not want to be part of the forum in the future.
crsides
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Congrats to Mom on a great purchase.
Charlie
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There were two chances to find that handgun before it ended up with the OP's Mom. The family who was selling the items should have gone through everything before handing it off to the estate sellers. Then the estate sellers should have gone through everything to inventory it before sale.
dlay
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I totally agree, well said.....
itshooter
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Two further questions this raises in my mind:
1) With an auction company involved, can a gun be legally sold without a background check, etc?
2) Did this purchase take place in the OP's state of residence?
1) With an auction company involved, can a gun be legally sold without a background check, etc?
2) Did this purchase take place in the OP's state of residence?
I wonder how many of the gray cloud folks here have ever bought an 8-piece bucket of chicken at the KFC drive-thru, got home and discovered there were 9 pieces in the bucket. Wonder what they did?
Same principle.
Same principle.
MygunisaS&Wrevolver
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I regret my post and appologize to sigp220.45. After 33 years as a law enforcement officer I came across a little intense on this issue. This doesn't mean that I agree, but I will still keep my membership in the forum. Sincerely
It would be different if it was marked" Teacups & S&W Revolver" but it wasn't and that leads me to believe it was a mistake. Personally, I would contact the estate and sort it out. If your conscious allows you to enjoy the mistake that is for you to decide not us.
Walter Rego
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I have been following this whole thread and personally, I think finding the gun is like finding a wallet with $400 in it on the sidewalk. You have the ID. Someone didn't purposely drop the wallet on the sidewalk. Are you going to try and find the owner? I would go back to the auction house and either turn it in or offer to buy it. That being said, I wouldn't feel bad if the auction house said "give me a couple hundred bucks for it" either.
Weimar
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Excellent - best i did in a box was it turned out there were about 80 cents inside the suitecase, all the silver was pre-64 
$10 for a Model 36??? Well, gee, I don't know... did it come with a holster and some ammo?
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Last time I bought from KFC, I didn't need to fill out a 4473! That's the rub that needs some...rubbing, I guess.
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Pef
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My question is whether a "company" can sell a gun without a FFL transfer.
This little blurb from the ATF seems to put the company (and the buyer) in the clear. See page 10.
https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download
I am not offering legal advice, but it seems like the buyer got a heck of a deal and I seriously doubt the BATF would give a hoot for this one case.
This little blurb from the ATF seems to put the company (and the buyer) in the clear. See page 10.
https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download
I am not offering legal advice, but it seems like the buyer got a heck of a deal and I seriously doubt the BATF would give a hoot for this one case.
gunnails
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I see no crime here, congrats on the new gat.
IMO, if the family was in such a hurry to dump all of granny's "stuff" that they did so without even looking through the boxes, and then chose to use a slip-shod (probably discount) auctioneer who didn't bother to do a thorough and decent inventory of the stuff, then I have no problem with someone getting an unplanned bargain on the contents of a "take it all or nothing" box.
If one of the teacups had turned out to be some rare Louie the 14th piece that was worth a small fortune would the buyer be obligated to go back and inform the auction house and pay the difference or return the item? I think not, and I don't see this as any different.
Just my opinion of course - and yours may vary...
If one of the teacups had turned out to be some rare Louie the 14th piece that was worth a small fortune would the buyer be obligated to go back and inform the auction house and pay the difference or return the item? I think not, and I don't see this as any different.
Just my opinion of course - and yours may vary...
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AZretired
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Again, not to rain on your parade, but you said you were on vacation visiting your mother. Does she live in the same state as you? You could be in a legal jamb by transporting it across state lines. Plus I agree, they did not intend to sell it with teacups and might report it as stolen when they realize its missing.
loeman
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Jeez folks! First the family didn't do their job in knowing what they were consigning to aution. Second, the auction service didn't do their job in knowing what they were selling. And now some of you want to take it back to these same incompetents for moral reasons? Sorry...not me. I'm keepin' the $10 Md 36.
AZretired
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Not even close. Last I heard there were no serial numbers, nor federal laws concerning the transfer of fried chicken
Suppose it was a box of books that he bought for $10. Upon going through it he found that one of the books was a rare first edition worth thousands. Would anybody be saying there is some duty to "go back to the estate" and ask if they really wanted to sell it as cheaply as they did?
In the context described - professional liquidation of an estate - I think the correct answer is that if the liquidator offers a box for $10, then ten bucks gets the buyer whatever is inside. Period. If there's a diamond ring in there, you've got a $10 diamond ring. Same thing if there's a gun. The estate owners had a chance to go through and evaluate all the stuff before handing it over to the estate liquidator. The liquidator also had a chance to check the goods they were offering, and see if there were any hidden "finds" in the various lots being offered.
If both parties failed to do so and thereby overlooked something of greater value (a rare book, a nice gun, a diamond ring) in a box they thought held stuff of lesser value, they should be the ones to bear the "loss" of not getting as much for their stuff as they might have if they'd been more diligent. I see absolutely no reason for a buyer to have the slightest remorse for finding and keeping anything they bought through the estate liquidation process.
In the context described - professional liquidation of an estate - I think the correct answer is that if the liquidator offers a box for $10, then ten bucks gets the buyer whatever is inside. Period. If there's a diamond ring in there, you've got a $10 diamond ring. Same thing if there's a gun. The estate owners had a chance to go through and evaluate all the stuff before handing it over to the estate liquidator. The liquidator also had a chance to check the goods they were offering, and see if there were any hidden "finds" in the various lots being offered.
If both parties failed to do so and thereby overlooked something of greater value (a rare book, a nice gun, a diamond ring) in a box they thought held stuff of lesser value, they should be the ones to bear the "loss" of not getting as much for their stuff as they might have if they'd been more diligent. I see absolutely no reason for a buyer to have the slightest remorse for finding and keeping anything they bought through the estate liquidation process.
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