A couple of little pocket rockets

[Huckelberry75]

Here are a couple of little guys that I found while rummaging through some boxes after my great uncle died. He also had several top break S&W copies in .38 and .32 and a Colt Lightning in .38, and of course the springs need work.

Can anyone help me to know what they are and what their value might be? Not sure if I should sell them or put them in the safe.

The top pistol is marked "Whitney Valley Armory CT. USA" "Pat May 23 1871" Serial number is 5XXXA. It appears to be .22 long, but I have only shot shorts out of it.

Thanks for any helps, info or tips.

The second pistol is marked: "Smith&Wesson Springfield, Mass Pat April 3 55, July 5 59, Dec 18 60" SN: 1XXXX"star" 7 shots and chambered in .22 short.

 

[SAFireman]

Those are two quite nice specimens....great condition.

 

[fat tom]

Can't help with I.D.,but those would definitely be going in my safe if I were you. Very nice.
f.t.

 

[TIMETRIPPER]

I don't know about the top one but I'm certain the lower tip-up revolver is a S&W model 1, 3rd issue. A little over 131,000 were made between 1868 and 1881. It is the final version of the first successful, mass produced, self contained cartridge firing gun. And the first S&W model to boot. That looks to be a very nice example.
John

 

[opoefc]

The Whitney is worth about $500 -$600 range and the S&W would be in the same range if the finish is original. It may be the lighting or the angle of your photo, but I see some indications of a refinish on the S&W. If that's the case, cut the value estimate in half. The Whitney is a much scarcer gun than the S&W and hard to find in excellent condition. Ed.

 

[Huckelberry75]

The Whitney is worth about $500 -$600 range and the S&W would be in the same range if the finish is original. It may be the lighting or the angle of your photo, but I see some indications of a refinish on the S&W. If that's the case, cut the value estimate in half. The Whitney is a much scarcer gun than the S&W and hard to find in excellent condition. Ed.

What makes you say that it has been re-finished? I don't know what to look for. Thanks to everyone for their help, it is much appreciated.

 

[cybershot]

The hammer and trigger on the S&W are normally fire blue. Also check to see if the lettering is crisp and clear and if edges are rounded more than they should be. Hope this helps.

 

[Göring's S&W]

The hammer and trigger on the S&W are normally fire blue

Fire blue or case hardened? I thought the fire blue was for older colts, esp autos?

 

[Huckelberry75]

I will see if I can post some pictures with better lighting and include the lettering. Thanks!!

 

[mmaher94087]

Huckleberry75, 'The second pistol is marked: "Smith&Wesson Springfield, Mass Pat April 3 55, July 5 59, Dec 18 60" SN: 1XXXX"star"' The 'star' generally indicates a factory refinish but it also could be the replacement of a major part. Mike #283

 

[Thuer]

The Top revolver is an Whitney No 1 cal.22 short. Value acording to Flayderman aroud $500.

 

[Huckelberry75]

Here are some new pics. Enjoy.