A First year R.M. and an Interesting shipping Point.

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Hi
I Like many other member's here in the forum, attended the annual S&WCA Meeting this year which was held in Troy, Michigan this year.The Theme of this years annual meeting was the Registered Magnum. There were More Registered Magnums at our closed member only meeting then I ever Imagined Possible. The member's displays were amazing and I saw many One of a Kind Registered Magnums there. If all this Hype of Registered magnums and MR Jink's excellent Presentation of the Registered Magnum did not get your blood Pumping, You had to be Dead ! :D I showed up for the meeting On Wednesday and saw the One shown below for sale that grabbed my Interest. I kept walking past it and it Intrigued me to say the least


I watched it sit there until Saturday afternoon when I Decided to take the Plunge and Buy it. The owner of it at that time, was very Gracious and let me take it over to another fellow member of the S&WCA for his advice and insight on the weapon. This one is a first Year 1935 Registered Magnum that I added the Period correct Roper Stock's to once I arrived home. It came with a Factory letter that states it shipped to The Bowen Brother's hardware Company of Augusta, Georgia on December 03, 1935 with one Box of .357 Magnum ammo. I then started to do some Research on The Bowen Brother's hardware company and came up with Nothing off the Internet so I contacted the Augusta, Georgia Museum of History and was Very Impressed to see that these Bowen's had a rich history surrounded around firearms.



I then took it a step further after I saw the last owner of The Bowen brothers hardware company was a Charles Bowen III and called his Home Phone number by Looking up his name in the Phone book from Augusta, Georgia. His Wife answered the Phone and I asked if her Husband would have been one of the Kin to The Bowen's that Originally owned the hardware store ? She confirmed he was one of the Last owners along with his Uncle when it was sold in 1958. One thing I have always noticed on Factory Letter's is, They never say much about the shipping Point or stocking dealers back then, and I felt that anyone ordering such a prestigious handgun as The Registered Magnum in that Time span, more than Likely Either had to be a Huge S&W stocking dealer, or one that had a Rich Family Heritage in Firearms to even get one of these weapons, so that is why I chased down the Original owner of Bowen Brother's hardware store, and I am Glad I did.




MR Charles Bowen III and I, had a very Nice Talk about his Family Heritage of firearms which fascinated me. He said his Father would have been the one to log in my Revolver back on December 03, 1935 when it was shipped from the factory. Sadly, he said there were no record's left from shipped in Guns nor any evidence of whom they sold to. He felt this gun was special ordered by his father for an important figure in town, due to it's price back then but could not verify it. He agreed to ask around Town and see if we might find out it's original owners name, such as I agreed to keep a keen eye peeled for his Great grand fathers Musket rifles in the future. When we about to hang up from our Hour and half phone call, I asked if he would mind sending all his recollections of Family in the gun Business ? and he agreed to do it which is shown below in the Typed letter I recieved from him along with the original response from the Augusta, Georgia Historical Museum.




I felt this information would enhance the Overall value and history Trail of my Registered Magnum and have added it to the folder I have with it's factory letter. I am hoping someday that I may find out just who the Person was that it was ordered for. Prior to Purchase, while Looking closely at this Registered Magnum I noticed it had not been fired that much as it lacked a defined flame Travel line. The Original Bluing also showed that it has not been carried or handled much. It has no Five sided stars on it, and also is lacking any date stamp's indicating it was ever returned to the factory for Re-Work. I was very Lucky to come across this example and more than Likely would have never owned one if it had not been for good members of the S&WCA that want to see us Younger collectors get a Good start in collecting. I met many members I had corresponded with in the past at that meeting , and it was Nice to Put Faces with names at last :) Regards, Hammerdown









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Dear Sir,

Thank you for your inquiry concerning the Bowen Brothers Hardware Company in Augusta.

The only business papers I can find are an accounts ledger for December 1917 to end of 1918.

I have not found any photos of Charles W. or the business although we have general photos of Broad Street.

I looked the company up in the Augusta City Directories (not a complete set).

In 1883, 1884, 1886, 1888 & 1889 we have a William D. Bowen, gunmaker at 1028 Broad Street, resident 1226 Broad Street

In 1889 William D. Bowen, gunmaker at 1028 Broad Street, resident 1226 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen, clerk W D Bowen, boards 1226 Broad Street

Guy M Bowen, mess. Southern Express Co, boards 1226 Broad Street

In 1892-3 William D. Bowen, gunsmith, dealer in guns, pistols & sporting goods, 1028 Broad Street, resident 1226 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen, gunsmith 1028 Broad Street, boards 1226 Broad Street

Guy M Bowen, clerk 918 Broad Street, boards 1226 Broad Street

Walter J Bowen, clerk 1028 Broad Street, boards 1226 Broad Street

In 1895-6 William D. Bowen, gunsmith, 1028 Broad Street, resident 1226 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen, mchist., home 1226 Broad Street

Guy M Bowen, clerk, boards 1226 Broad Street

Walter J Bowen, salesman 1028 Broad Street, boards 1226 Broad Street

In 1908 William D. Bowen, gunsmith

Bowen Brothers, hardware, 908 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen (Viola H.), home 1236 Broad Street

Guy M Bowen, 1226 Broad Street

Walter J Bowen, hardware, 1044 Broad Street, home 607 15th Street

In 1912 William D. Bowen, gunsmith, home 1207 Ellis Street

Bowen Brothers, hardware, 908 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen (Viola H.), home Monte Sano Ave

Guy M Bowen (Nannie H.), home 1219 Greene Street

Walter J Bowen (Pearl M.), hardware, 1044 Broad Street, home 1207 Ellis Street

In 1917 Bowen Brothers, hardware, 908 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen, President, (Viola H.), home 2409 Central Ave

Guy M Bowen, Sec-Treas, (Nannie H.), home 1335 Monte Sano Ave

Walter J Bowen (Pearl M.), gunsmith, 1044 Broad Street, home 309 9th Street

In 1935 Bowen Brothers Hardware, (hardware, sporting goods, paint, oil, varnish & radio sets) 905-909 Broad Street

Charles W Bowen, President

Charles W Bowen Jr, manager

Bowen & Hulbert Hardware, 829 Broad Street

Guy M Bowen, VP-Treas

So as you can see from the above, the family were gunsmiths. It would seem William D was the father and the other 3 possibly his sons or other relations who had competing hardware stores.

The Augusta Genealogical Society (1109 Broad St, Augusta GA 30901, 706 722 4073) might have more on the family tree.

Hope that helps.



Guy Robbins

Curator

Augusta Museum of History

706 722 8454 x18

[email protected]







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Hammerdown, that's a stunning RM and some great research on it's provenance. I love old gun history!

Hello JayCeeNC
Great to see you again and be able to corrospond with you again. ;) I also appreciate your Kind words, and will share with you, that the Previous owner was very glad to see I have Pushed ahead to Uncover some of it's History Trail. Like I said, I have often wondered how Important some of these Stocking dealers were back then, and what if any Favor's S&W did such as faster shipping of New stock items ? I feel The Modern Day Large S&W stocking dealers like R.S.R and Lew Horton weigh a Lot Heavier when they Place their Gun orders with S&W. Too Bad, Pre-War Era S&W stocking dealers did not keep better track of their Guns Logged in or just who they sold them to like they do today, that would sure cut to the History chase a lot quicker..:) In Reference to the gun, at first I thought it was odd that this short barreled gun would have a Patridge sight blade, but I Later Learned this revolver was made Prior to the release of the Famous lower profile Frank Baughman inspired sight blade.. Regards, Hammerdown
 
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I think early stocking dealers did have some sway if they made big orders. Just look at Wolf and Klar in Texas, they had the .44 HE 3rd Model originally made just for them! Evaluators, Ltd., in Quantico, VA., had a family connection to S&W in the 1950's and 1960's and they probably got "preferred" treatment.
 
Hammerdown,

Neat old RM and great research. Regarding the Patridge front sight blade; I've always thought they looked good on short barreled guns - functionally tough, and kind of nasty-looking. Those stocks are killer, also.

Thanks,

Jerry
 
Hammerdown,

Neat old RM and great research. Regarding the Patridge front sight blade; I've always thought they looked good on short barreled guns - functionally tough, and kind of nasty-looking. Those stocks are killer, also.

Thanks,

Jerry


Hello John & Jerry
I Like the Looks of the Patridge front sight blade myself. I have a friend that has one that shipped in 1938 with the McGivern Gold Bead front sight blade and it is actually a Higher profile than mine is. Regards, Hammerdown
 
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Beautiful Revolver

Hammerdown:

I have followed your posting of that beautiful revolver on several of the other forums. Glad that you have migrated it here. Congrats on a great find. If I remember correctly, you had indicated in one of your posts (on another forum) that there was something you were going to have Hamilton Bowen look at related to a slight modification that some previous owner had made to the grip frame. Were you able to get it restored, or am I remembering a different gun?

I also love the original Roper stocks on that beauty and 3.5" is one of my favorite 357 lengths. The Patridge front sight gives it a cool "I mean business" look :cool:. I wish I could have made it back to the annual meeting. I will be at Tucson next year...

Thanks again for sharing.
 
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Hammerdown:

I have followed your posting of that beautiful revolver on several of the other forums. Glad that you have migrated it here. Congrats on a great find. If I remember correctly, you had indicated in one of your posts (on another forum) that there was something you were going to have Hamilton Bowen look at related to a slight modification that some previous owner had made to the grip frame. Were you able to get it restored, or am I remembering a different gun?

I also love the original Roper stocks on that beauty and 3.5" is one of my favorite 357 lengths, and the Patridge front sight gives it a cool "I mean business" look :cool:. I wish I could have made it back to the annual meeting. I will be at Tucson next year...

Thanks again for sharing.




Hello There RK
You remember it correctly. I contacted Hamilton Bowen to Put back the Modified grip frame on this Gun, as he is in my Back Yard here in East Tennessee, But he does not do that type of work anymore. I have since found a guy who does gorgeous work and has agreed to Put this gun back to it's original Grip frame configuration.


It is not a Giant Job, But one that needs a sharp eye for detail and some slight Heli-Arc work. I could Heli-Arc the frame back to it's original Position by adding a small Piece to the bottom of the grip frame where it has been Modified, But I do not have a Heli-Arc welder at my disposal at this time. I felt with the Province of the revolver involved here, it is Better to leave this Job to the Professionals that have done them in the past. Regards, Hammerdown
 
Hammerdown,

Great gun and provenence, If they could only talk :D good to see ya back here!
 
Hammerdown,

Great gun and provenence, If they could only talk :D good to see ya back here!




Hello Dan
Thanks I appreciate your Kind words. I am with you on Guns Talking they sure would have a story to tell. Oddly enough this Purchase was kind of Bitter Sweet to me. It does have a current Grip Frame Modification where some Yo-Yo cut the Lower Grip frame and brought in the back strap. Sadly, in my eyes it did Ruin the revolver, But I am sending it off to be repaired, and when done it will look like it did when it left the factory. I have no Earthly Idea what they could have been Thinking doing this to such a gorgeous Gun ? Luckily, it was done in a way that it did not alter the Gun's serial number, so adding a small Piece of Steel on the bottom of the grip frame and bringing the back strap back to it's original position will repair this modification.




This Modification was reflected in the Purchase price, which allowed me to Purchase it, and I have tried very grip one can Imagine from S&W and none seem to fit it correctly. I am Thinking it was done to accept possibly a Colt Grips Possibly of Ivory or something ?The Re-attachment of the Lower grip frame was Brazed, so it will not be hard to get it back apart.




I feel Possibly after it was altered the Original owner was either embarrassed about it, or did not like the way it looked so it sat quietly in a Night stand Drawer after that due to it's condition, as it sure has not been carried or shot much. The Gun has no date stamps or stars on it, so it is safe to say it was never returned to S&W for any re-work like many other Registered Magnums I have seen.



Some have suggested I leave this Modified grips frame as it is now in case it was a person of Important stature may have owned it and had it done this way for carry Purposes, but due to the Higher condition of the Bluing and lack of Flame Travel line, leads me to believe it was a Billy-Bob Repair that was not Liked at all by it's original owner, and I Plan to shoot and enjoy it, so repairing it is the way I have decided to go.


At this time, I have not fired it and believe me, it is hard to not enjoy a revolver built this Nice, but I will when it is repaired and back to looking normal again. From what I have Observed out there, Most Registered Magnums have been returned to the factory for Re-Work or Refinish work in the course of their Lives, so I do not feel a Bit Guilty Putting this one back to the way it is supposed to be.....;) Hammerdown
 
That gun was meant for you. Looks like you have done alot of home work since the show.
Great job and a nice addition there.



Hey Moosedog
It was great to Meet you there. It is always nice to be able to put a Face with Name. I sure wish there would have been more time for us to sit down and Chat ! Perhaps we might be able to do that at another S&WCA meeting in the future. Could you believe the amount of Collector Guns at that meeting ? I can't believe anyone out there that has one shred of Interest in S&W's out there is Not a member of that elite association can you ? :confused: Regards, Hammerdown
 
Kurt, that is a very unusual gun with an interesting provenance. I looked at that gun several times, I believe it was on Ed's table if memory serves me. I think it would be interesting if you posted photos of the gun without the grips, the modification was well done and gives the gun a unique profile. I would be tempted to leave the gun as it is as I thought the grip frame change added to it's interest. Maybe have Keith Brown make up a set of round butt pre-war Magnas for it, it would be an eye catcher. John SWCA #1586
 
Great gun and another really good picture Kurt! I sure enjoyed chatting at the show. I only wish we had more time there.

Glad to see you back over here too!;)
 
Great gun and another really good picture Kurt! I sure enjoyed chatting at the show. I only wish we had more time there.

Glad to see you back over here too!;)

Hey Tim
Nice to meet you at the meeting as well. I see by your Post Count, You had better get back to work soon. :D I wish we had more time there as well, I hope to see you again soon...;) Hammerdown
 
Kurt...nice seeing you again in Troy. The annual meeting was great and I am glad you were able to obtain a great ".357" for your collection.

Bill
 
Grip Frame repaired, Ford's of Florida to the Rescue

Hello
I thought some of you that read this thread would like to Hear how this Messed up Grip frame got repaired and the gun Just showed up back home Late Last week. After I Posted here about it being Modified I got to Looking at it real close, with a High Powered Jewlers Loop. It was apparent it had been Cut at the Lower Butt section and brought in, apparently to utilize a set of after market grips of smaller Profile ? I Quickly noticed by using the Jewler's Loop that the braze Job was sloppy and had a hair Line Crack so the gun was not safe to fire in that condition. I contacted several sources out there, Being Hamilton Bowen, Doug Turnbull, and a few Other's only to be told they could not or would not repair my Frame Issues. :(



I Then Contacted Horace Ford of Ford's Custom refinishing in Florida and asked him his Opinion on it ? I also sent him the Pictures of it below to show him the mess I was dealing with. After a few Phone call's he assured me if he could not fix it once it arrived he would tell me that, But He agreed to repair it for me so I sent it out The Third week in August. There was several problems he had to deal with on the repairs one being that who ever Cut the grip frame Placed the Gun in a Jawed vice and it destroyed the back strap serrations Both For and Aft of the grip frame along with when they Brazed it up, they filled the last serial Number and the cut was Very close to that last number, of which we could Not alter. :mad:



Originally, I wanted the frame repairs made and wanted them to leave the Guns original finish on it. From The welding, heating, and re-positioning of the back strap, we could not leave the original finish in Place so it had to be refinished. Horace was very careful in his work of refinishing as shown and to me did an excellent job of his repairs given their nature & Extent of damage. He was able to melt the braze out of the original Last serial number, and make it sharp and clear again. He then used the service grips I sent along with it to take the back strap back to it's original Position before welding it back in Place. I am very Pleased with their work and will soon be able to safely fire & Really enjoy my Registered Magnum after owning it 9-1/2 Months and not seeing it for 7-1/2 of those Months.:)


I will try to get some Pictures of it with the service grips in Place so it will show how well he made the repairs to it. I know some of you out there would not have wanted to refinish the gun, and when we started this project I did not either and he was going to try and make the repairs without a total refinish by Blending the back strap bluing in if he could, but it was needed after the extensive repairs of Heat and welding, so he had to do to it and now it is back to Looking like it's original configuration and can be enjoyed. I Highly suggest if you have a Job of refinishing or repairs to Contact Ford's in Florida for their expertise and craftsmanship from Taking a Wall Hanger back to a useable weapon again. ;)







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