A legal question about the new Colt Python

[lrrifleman]

I have to admit, I was curious about the new Python, and visited their page. I noticed that the Python is restricted in: California, Massachusetts, and Maryland.

Considering the existence of the California handgun roster, I can accept THAT restriction. But why would a 6 shot revolver be restricted for sale in Massachusetts and Maryland?

Thanks for your insight!

 

[Kurusu]

Not the best answer, but...

The future's so bright. You got to wear shades.

 

[glenwolde]

Because they both have a similar system to California's. Have to get everything approved by the State.

Approved firearms rosters | Mass.gov

Handgun Roster Board

 

[2152hq]

Sintered metal parts (MIM) keeping them off the Approved Rosters maybe?
Just a guess.
Maybe they sustain damage when dropped from a 40 story building onto a concrete surface.
Hard to figure how their tiny minds function

 

[LDM]

Probably because they won't have the "Hilary Hole" internal locking mechanism.

 

[FlyFish]

There are no Colt products on the Mass Firearms Roster. If I recall correctly from my days behind enemy lines as a Mass resident, to get a gun on the roster a manufacturer has to submit something like 6 guns to the state for testing, and that testing is destructive. I was told that Colt simply refuses to submit guns to be destroyed. There is a separate, and obviously much smaller, Formal Target Shooting roster, which lists guns that the manufacturer has certified (by jumping through various hoops) are designed solely for competition target shooting. Those guns are exempt from the testing procedure, and there are a number of Colts (the Gold Cup M1911, e.g.) that appear on that roster.

 

[murphydog]

If MA and MD are similar to CA in the "certification" process, a fairly large bri...uh, fee must be paid to the state as well. It would have to figure into whether manufacturers might or might not want to sell a low-volume product in those states.

 

[robertrwalsh]

In order to get a new centerfire handgun on the on the CA roster you must submit three copies of EACH VARIATION of the weapon for expensive destructive testing. If you make the exact same gun in a 3", 4" and 6" variation you must submit 3 copies of EACH VARIATION. It gets real expensive. Also new semi-auto centerfire pistols have to have a microstamp system on them, which is theoretically doable but practically not. That is why new semi-auto pistols do not appear on the CA roster, and many are dropping off. It is back door gun control pure and simple. It greatly limits the choice of CA consumers, which is the whole idea.

 

[The Norseman]

Old Blue

Those are Blue States correct? One way to correct what's
happening there is Stop Voting in those old career Politian's.

Good for Colt not giving in. They should move to the Midwest
where they would be welcomed.

 

[TTSH]

Because they both have a similar system to California's. Have to get everything approved by the State.

Approved firearms rosters | Mass.gov

Handgun Roster Board

There are no Colt products on the Mass Firearms Roster. If I recall correctly from my days behind enemy lines as a Mass resident, to get a gun on the roster a manufacturer has to submit something like 6 guns to the state for testing, and that testing is destructive. I was told that Colt simply refuses to submit guns to be destroyed. There is a separate, and obviously much smaller, Formal Target Shooting roster, which lists guns that the manufacturer has certified (by jumping through various hoops) are designed solely for competition target shooting. Those guns are exempt from the testing procedure, and there are a number of Colts (the Gold Cup M1911, e.g.) that appear on that roster.

Correct and correct (unfortunately). Even worse, given Colt's past refusal to submit any handguns for MA certification testing... AND... based on the fact that Colt will sell every new Python that they can possibly produce in the free states... I think it will be a very long time before Colt changes its mind and jumps through the MA certification hoops.

Hell may have to freeze over solid first.

 

[Univibe]

And the question to be asked is, what does any of this have to do with the prevention and detection of crime?

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

And the question to be asked is, what does any of this have to do with the prevention and detection of crime?

As much as any other so-called gun control.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Could be something as simple as it’s not worth the money for Colt to get its Python approved in Massachusetts

 

[rednichols]

AND... based on the fact that Colt will sell every new Python that they can possibly produce in the free states...

That this phrase can even be written, and I can read it and it is fitting, means that America has changed for the worse even more than I thought it had, from 20 years ago when I moved overseas. And I'm a Californian!! Like the proverbial frog, ya'll have been boiled to death with a one degree temp rise every so often. Understandable here, but not there :-(

 

[sw282]

Beautiful gun.. Thankfully it doesn't have those horrid rubber HOGUES

 

[JayFramer]

That this phrase can even be written, and I can read it and it is fitting, means that America has changed for the worse even more than I thought it had, from 20 years ago when I moved overseas. And I'm a Californian!! Like the proverbial frog, ya'll have been boiled to death with a one degree temp rise every so often. Understandable here, but not there :-(

Off topic but are you picking up an Australian accent? If so, that’s cool.

 

[TTSH]

And the question to be asked is, what does any of this have to do with the prevention and detection of crime?

Nothing. If you listen to our dishonest anti-2A overlords, it is all about consumer protection. Nope, I am not kidding.

Could be something as simple as it’s not worth the money for Colt to get its Python approved in Massachusetts

There is certainly a cost associated with MA handgun certification, but it's not nearly as bad as CA. I think it's just a long-standing policy with Colt not to participate. The size of the MA market does not justify it and they can sell all that they can possibly produce elsewhere... so why bother?

 

[stansdds]

And the question to be asked is, what does any of this have to do with the prevention and detection of crime?

Not a single thing.

 

[eveled]

It’s done in the name of safety. But they really were hoping nobody would play along. So there would be no guns to buy in Massachusetts.

 

[rednichols]

Off topic but are you picking up an Australian accent? If so, that’s cool.

What a great question . Not sure I've ever been asked before. No. I can mimic it to great effect in short spurts, simply from practice while working in retail here. But I can't fool anyone for long (whereas the actor in JAG who played an Aussie officer was British, not discovered until after his death).

I have shifted between the continental United States and overseas every so often since 1950, and my Yankee accent has remained very pronounced. The key to communicating here is not so much accent but Australia's dialect; the English words are not only different depending, but also can mean quite opposite things. Leads to plenty of confusion in the first decade or so .