A pair of .22 Third Model Single Shot Perfected Pistols

[mrcvs]

I pulled these out and decided to photograph them, No 6559 and No 9924. 6559 shipped in 1913; 9924 in 1922. A few variations evident. 6559 has larger “Trade Mark” and logo on right side, 9924 has smaller “Trade Mark” and logo on left side. “22LONG RIFLE CTG” on left side of barrel of 6559 and nothing on right side of barrel of 6559. “22LONG RIFLE CTG” on right side of barrel of 9924 and “SMITH & WESSON “ on left side of the barrel.

 

[mrcvs]

And more photographs...

 

[Borderboss]

Thanks for sharing this great info. I love the info from Roy about the Olympic Barrel. It sounds like it was intended to have the round pressed hard into the rifling. I would think that would spike pressures quite a bit.

 

[Vidd]

Third model

And more photographs...

Strange my third model perfected serial 5432 has small logo on left and also cartridge marking on left side pistol shiped March 20th 1912

 

[Vidd]

I pulled these out and decided to photograph them, No 6559 and No 9924. 6559 shipped in 1913; 9924 in 1922. A few variations evident. 6559 has larger “Trade Mark” and logo on right side, 9924 has smaller “Trade Mark” and logo on left side. “22LONG RIFLE CTG” on left side of barrel of 6559 and nothing on right side of barrel of 6559. “22LONG RIFLE CTG” on right side of barrel of 9924 and “SMITH & WESSON “ on left side of the barrel.

Question do both guns have matching serial numbers on frame Barrel and latch assembly

 

[mrcvs]

Question do both guns have matching serial numbers on frame Barrel and latch assembly

Yes, I wouldn’t own them otherwise.

 

[mmaher94087]

Vidd, have you lettered your pistol? I ask because the hammer on your pistol has been lightened considerably from the factory examples that mrcvs has shown. Where's Ralph??

 

[ol777gunnerz]

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Vidd, have you lettered your pistol? I ask because the hammer on your pistol has been lightened considerably from the factory examples that mrcvs has shown. Where's Ralph??

I believe this is his pistol that has an H M Pope barrel [sleeved with Olympic chamber & left hand twist rifling], notice the small screw trigger stop which was also a trademark of Pope's work.

 

[mrcvs]

Colt Camp Perry Single Shot Pistol

I used to think that the Smith & Wesson .22 Third Model Perfected Single Shot pistol is of the highest quality and cannot be beat. That was the case until I purchased a Colt Camp Perry pistol last year.

Smith & Wesson pistols are of the highest quality, but, surprisingly, can be beat by the Camp Perry pistol. Which is an amazing feat for Colt as, hands down, Smith & Wesson produced a better quality revolver in most, if not all cases. For example, the New Model No 3 is clearly superior to the Colt Single Action Army, both in the general design and the quality of craftsmanship.

Nonetheless, for comparison, photographs of the Colt Camp Perry pistol are attached.

 

[Borderboss]

I used to think that the Smith & Wesson .22 Third Model Perfected Single Shot pistol is of the highest quality and cannot be beat. That was the case until I purchased a Colt Camp Perry pistol last year.

Smith & Wesson pistols are of the highest quality, but, surprisingly, can be beat by the Camp Perry pistol. Which is an amazing feat for Colt as, hands down, Smith & Wesson produced a better quality revolver in most, if not all cases. For example, the New Model No 3 is clearly superior to the Colt Single Action Army, both in the general design and the quality of craftsmanship.

Nonetheless, for comparison, photographs of the Colt Camp Perry pistol are attached.

Have you shot the two side by side to see which is more accurate? I would expect the S&W to be more accurate because it eliminates the cylinder gap.

 

[mrcvs]

Have you shot the two side by side to see which is more accurate? I would expect the S&W to be more accurate because it eliminates the cylinder gap.

I have never fired the Colt Camp Perry Model pistol. Other than at the factory when proofed, I have reason to believe it is unfired.

 

[Borderboss]

I have never fired the Colt Camp Perry Model pistol. Other than at the factory when proofed, I have reason to believe it is unfired.

Yikes, then definitely don't fire it!

 

[ol777gunnerz]

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Yes the Camp Perry's are nice & accurate, but kind of a pain to shoot, having to perform 3 different tasks to extract the spent cartridge. Owning all 3 examples of the S&W revolver framed single shots, formerly owned a Camp Perry, the H&R USRA model is hands down the highest quality, actually ejects the spent rnd. several ft., & incorporates many design improvements by Walter Roper, has his style of large grips, & an "R" stamped on each during his time at H&R. He was told to make them the finest target pistol made, given an unlimited budget, it is estimated they spent $150 in total for each one produced, selling them for $35-45 each over the yrs of production.

 

[mrcvs]

Yikes, then definitely don't fire it!

The goal is to eventually find another one in lesser condition at a reasonable price and shoot that one.

The one I own was owned by a Senator from Connecticut who was elected shortly after this revolver was produced. He was friends with Herbert Hoover and rented President Hoover’s former DC residence from him when Hoover was in the White House. I had high hopes this one might have actually shipped to Hoover to give to Senator Walcott, but no such luck. It shipped to a Colt plant employee.

 

[kennyb]

I purchased a like S&W about a year ago.Guess I need to remove it from the safe and take a closer look

 

[squawberryman]

Currently I own a pair. They ARE pre wars. Someday I'll have a pre war revolver. The firing pin broke on one and I had Andy Horvath make a new one.

 

[thelagoonloon]

2nd Model Single Shot

I have a 2nd Model 8" barrel Serial 4048. Front sight marked W.F. Sherad Tacoma Wash. Just moved and can't get to it for pictures - sorry. I am not a collector. Just like guns. Do I have something special?

 

[series guy]

I have 8035 and it's definitely one of my favorites.

 

[RubEric]

No. 788x, Lettered:

 

[Vidd]

Vidd, have you lettered your pistol? I ask because the hammer on your pistol has been lightened considerably from the factory examples that mrcvs has shown. Where's Ralph??

Yes see picks