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I was in Academy Sports and Outdoors today looking at knives (Rule 9). So I'm looking at a nice looking Winchester knife, brass and wood handle when I notice on the back of the package that it was Made In China! Whaaaaat? OK so the Winchester knife goes back on the rack and I keep looking. SOG knives - China. Camillus knives - China. Gerber knives - China. OMG not Gerber too. I did find one brand that proclaimed that it was Made In Taiwan of imported Japanese steel. Oh wait, here are the Smith & Wesson knives, now we are talking. I pick up the package looking for that Made in USA label. WRONG The S&W knives were Made In China, too. I finally found and bought two Buck knives that proudly had the Stars and Stripes actually on the front of the package along with Made In USA on the back. By golly, I may not have a choice in some things that are Chinese made but when I can, I'm going to buy USA made.
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CW
 
Glad you found two made in USA Buck knives because some of them are also made in................you guessed it...............China.
 
Case also makes knifes in the US and in China. Browning has Chinese knifes and Japanese knifes. My wife wanted to buy me a knive for Christmas, she ended up buying me a German made barlow. I started a small collection about a year ago, it's not easy to avoid all the Chinese knifes.
 
I try to adhere to Rule 9 except when the TSA is involved.
My Buck 110 and it's baby brother 503 are both USA made and I carry them proudly.

I'm afraid to get started on Case. That looks like it could be one expensive compulsion! :eek:
 
I bought a Gerber knife a few years ago and then noticed it was made in China. They still make their good knives in the US and I believe they are marked "Gerber USA" on the blades. I gave the Gerber to my daughter and bought a Buck, made in Idaho.
 
Some Henkels Twinworks are made in China, but mine are made in Spain!?
 
I saw some Kershaw knives but what they had didn't reach out and grab me or the ones they did have were the Chinese made. I noticed that some of the Buck knives said they were assembled in the US of USA made and imported parts but I didn't see any Bucks that were from China. The Case knives were USA made but weren't what I was looking for. They had some Victornox that were, of course, Swiss made. I ended up with a larger Buck for daily use and a much smaller, mini Buck Lite for times when I don't want a big knife bulging my slacks.

CW
 
Cyrano said:
Some Henkels Twinworks are made in China, but mine are made in Spain!?
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Having just done a lot of research on Henckels knives prior to getting my wife a new chef's knife for Christmas, a real Twin will be made in Germany. It's their lower cost "International" line that's made in Spain and their even cheaper economy line is produced in Asia. You've got to do a lot of digging and fine print-reading to determine what's what nowadays.
 
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It's amazing to me that damn near everything is made in China!! Try to buy the new light bulbs that are not made in China. I have heard that some are made here, but I have not found any yet. Obama is always looking for jobs, he shoud try China, that's where they have gone, and not likely to return.
 
I've got a Boker MkIII fighting knife repro. I bought it because I like that style knife and wanted to use it for a fishing knife without having to mess up one of my real collectible MkIII's. I think it's the only Chinese or Pakistani knife I own.
 
Schrade too. The better ones are made in China with materials that are supplied and overseen by the US company; at least that's what I've heard. I have a Kershaw Outcast that My Wife got me that has made in China, but it is a very nice knife. If I were going to buy a "civil unrest" knife, and cost was not a large factor, I would buy a Grayman knife. Add .com and check them out, but they ain't cheap. Flapjack.
 
I was in an Academy store here in Louisiana. Checked out the knife section, winchester knife-made in china, gerber knife-also made in china.
Least amount of time spent in that store since it was built. Something of a record for me. Frank
 
Frank46 said:
I was in an Academy store here in Louisiana. Checked out the knife section, winchester knife-made in china, gerber knife-also made in china.
Least amount of time spent in that store since it was built. Something of a record for me. Frank
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Glad to know someone agrees with me. What really bothered me the most were the Winchester and S&W knives made in China. I really expected better from something with S&W at least.

CW
 
blujax01 said:
I'm afraid to get started on Case. That looks like it could be one expensive compulsion! :eek:
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I had about 4 case knives and it was becoming a compulsion until the proper medication was applied in the correct dose. That medication was a frying pan skillfully applied to the side of the head and repreat at the compulsion became strong again. Only took about three treatments and I was ready to give up the idea of collecting Case Knives.

CW
 
Hah, yep, I came to the same realization about the knives a year or two ago, and felt the same disappointment, but was not surprised. My knife collection consists mostly of Bucks, and some of them are from the 1970's and still have the factory edge, which will shave your arm.

Many of the major guitar manufacturers have offshore manufacturing also. Good old Fender guitars, an American original, now has instruments Made in Japan and Made in Mexico, and a prospective purchaser / collector has to know serial numbers for USA, Japan, and Mex. Who knows if / when a Chinese Fender will come into existence. A made in Mex Fender is about half the price of an American made one, and is nearly identical, visually. Many of the companies make instruments in Korea too.

JP
 
Two of my Benchmade folders were made in the USA, while one, the first I bought, was made in China. They no longer offer that cheaper red box series. They are not bad knives for the price, which came way down when Benchmade orphaned them, but they do not approach the quality of the US-made knives.
 
Made in USA

A few made in USA
Dick
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I bought a Buck Folding Hunter the first year it was in production. Not only was it made in the USA, the blade was high carbon steel (not stainless). It both takes a better edge than the later versions, it sharpens more easily and it holds the edge longer. Between wearings I put it in my nightstand drawer and it shows no rust.
 
Think about it.
They can make an item in china, ship it across the Pacific and sell it herecheaper than can be if it was made in the United States. Like it or not-we are in a global economy amigos-the sooner we deal with it as opposed to ranting about it, the better off we will be. It be what it be-we can't control the fact that China uses labor at pennies on the dollar compared to what we pay-hell to them it's a great living!! GO back and look at that thread about the 30's factory assembly lines-the US used to do this-we evolved and now we don't do it any more-we let other countries do it. We are in the tail end of a natural democratic progression-we are in the fat and lazy sector which is right before the get taken over by another country sector, and the progression starts all over again.
We're screwed and we did it to ourselves. Period.
 
Cajun

Just because we " did it to ourselves " doesn't mean we have to accept it .

I bought my son and daughter Buck knives for Xmas - specifically because they are made in the USA .

I also didn't buy any Xmas paper this yeasr . I just used the glossy newspaper inserts . Surprisingly festive actually .

I told my kids " screw the Chinese " .

Small baby steps ..........


Regards ,
George
 
Winchester contracts with Blue Grass Cutlery for their high end pocket knives. Check out the Millenium Series at Smokey Mountain Knife works. They are U.S. made and beautifully handcrafted.
 
CAJUNLAWYER said:
Think about it.
They can make an item in china, ship it across the Pacific and sell it herecheaper than can be if it was made in the United States. Like it or not-we are in a global economy amigos-the sooner we deal with it as opposed to ranting about it, the better off we will be. It be what it be-we can't control the fact that China uses labor at pennies on the dollar compared to what we pay-hell to them it's a great living!! GO back and look at that thread about the 30's factory assembly lines-the US used to do this-we evolved and now we don't do it any more-we let other countries do it. We are in the tail end of a natural democratic progression-we are in the fat and lazy sector which is right before the get taken over by another country sector, and the progression starts all over again.
We're screwed and we did it to ourselves. Period.
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I didn't click on the "like" button on Caj's post because I couldn't bring myself to acknowledge I liked what was said (one of those deals where you agree but don't "like" the situation).........But he stated the truth. Like it or not, what Caj said hit the nail on the head. :(

Don
 
Here are a few all made in the USA.
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I collect knives and the ones above are old stock. Looking for a particular blade let me know I might have it. Peace.

Blade
 
Want to get a real kick out of the knife market? Go to AG Russell's web site. He has chinese knives for over $100.00 bucks a pop or at one time he did. All these years he's preached pro-American and American craftsmanship. I guess the all mighty dollar won out in the end.
 
There are usually a few US made Gerbers on the racks at Academy, but most are made in China, you can feel the difference. I saw some about 2 months ago, folders. The US made cost a good bit more but in my opinion worth it..
Steve W
 
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