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I'm a regular visitor to a local gun auction site. This morning I stumbled across something I thought was a joke...that is, until I googled it up. Have you seen a Mossberg 464 SPX Tactical 30-30? I wish I never had. Is a tactical Sharps next?

Ed
 
Why is it a step too far? It's not for me that's for sure but I don't care that a collapsible stock is added to a rifle.

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My how times change! The Sharp's carbines and rifles were "Tactical Rifles" they were never "Tacticool"rifles!

One of the most desirable rifles for any collection is the Sharp's Coffee Grinder Carbine! That is a 54 caliber, Paper Cartridge, cavalry carbine with a coffee grinder inset in the butt stock. This was done over 40 years before the invention of the Swiss Army Knife! At the time the hottest trend in accessories on guns were rear sights!!!

In the 1870's, 80's and 90's, Lever actions were the rage in assault rifles, everywhere except in the United States. Turkey had Henry Rifles that they decimated the Russians with. In South America, all the Juntas were buying U.S. made lever guns. Surplus Henry and Spencer, or new Winchester, Marlin/Ballard and Evens. The Countries had their Main Battle Rifles (many used Remington Rolling Blocks) and they wanted a smaller cartridged, light weight, high fire power, and quick handling gun. One hundred plus years later: paint it black!

Ivan
 
Great reply Ivan!
I really like the German Mausers that all the South American countries called their own!
My 1895 Chilean M-95 that I "sporterized" is a scoped tack-driver in 7mm mauser caliber. Insane accuracy!!!
 
South American Mausers made in Germany. Really nice quality accurate 7mm mausers. Tac drivers you bet. Never sell a military rifle short when it comes to accuracy.

I don't care for the black extended stock rifles of any kind. Ar15's not for me. I like the real look of wood. I dressed up my first Chinese sks with every after market goodie. Wow the assault look was so ugly it lasted a few minutes then I converted it back to orginal.
 
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Is Mossberg still making them. When they came out I knew I didn't want one .
Maybe they are legal in California and that's where they're selling them at . I haven't seen anyone carrying one at the deer camp here in Louisiana !
Gary
 
You could always pair it with the Stoeger Double Defense:

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I saw a "tactical" cleaning kit for sale lately!

I find this gun ugly. The only saving grace would be if it irritated the liberals after a ban of semiautos. I hooped it doesn't ever come to that.

But I'd add these parts to an already-sporterized Enfield if they were available to fit. It would look better than the sporterized-with-wood look.
 
"In the 1870's, 80's and 90's, Lever actions were the rage in assault rifles, everywhere except in the United States."

Actually the Henry "assault rifle" was in use during the Civil War, somewhat before lever actions were used by other countries. Not many Henries were bought by the Union, but quite a few were purchased by individual soldiers, usually cavalry. One can also say that the Spencer was a lever action, and there were far more of them (in both rifle and carbine styles) used as military "assault rifles" both during and after the Civil War, clear into the Indian War period.
 
I again repeat........THERE IS NO SUCH THING...as an assault rifle........The term was coined by the antigunners in 1968......Guns by themselves have never assaulted/harmed anything by themselves.....You are promoting a myth..........
 
"I again repeat........THERE IS NO SUCH THING...as an assault rifle........The term was coined by the antigunners in 1968"

Well, yes there is. The WWII German Sturmgewehr 44 was the first "assault rifle" in widespread military use (thet's what Sturmgewehr means), and it's generally considered to apply to lighter-weight rifles firing lower-powered cartridges than standard, having selective semi-automatic and full-automatic firing modes, and the capability to use large capacity magazines. The military AK-47 and M16 rifles fit that original German "Sturmgewehr" definition, along with many others. However, the definition has grown over the years, courtesy of the anti-gun crowd, to also include semi-auto only rifles which look like the military versions. There certainly is a distinction, but most of the general public (which knows little about firearms) doesn't see it.
 
Wonder what Custer and his men called the lever actions the Indians used?
 
Does it really matter what the weapon itself is "labeled" or "called"? The term "assault" most likely never entered the minds of those brave men that hit the beaches of Normandy, or trapped at the seawall on Tarawa, up the hill with T.R., at Chateau-Thiery, the Navy man piloting the Landing Craft waering maybe a Victory, etc. et. al. ad infinitum..

So with above "assaults" in mind.....I suppose a 1911A1, an 03-A3, a BAR (the real one of course), a S&W Victory, a Garand, a Thompson, a Johnson.....all could be called "assault" rifles, pistols, weapons.

Heck.........I am going to look in the backyard this morning...I think I have a few "assault rocks" buried, some still NIG (New In Ground)..wonder what the collector market is before anti-rockers get around to labeling them illegal.
 
cmansguns said:
Does it really matter what the weapon itself is "labeled" or "called"? The term "assault" most likely never entered the minds of those brave men that hit the beaches of Normandy, or trapped at the seawall on Tarawa, up the hill with T.R., at Chateau-Thiery, the Navy man piloting the Landing Craft waering maybe a Victory, etc. et. al. ad infinitum..

So with above "assaults" in mind.....I suppose a 1911A1, an 03-A3, a BAR (the real one of course), a S&W Victory, a Garand, a Thompson, a Johnson.....all could be called "assault" rifles, pistols, weapons.

Heck.........I am going to look in the backyard this morning...I think I have a few "assault rocks" buried, some still NIG (New In Ground)..wonder what the collector market is before anti-rockers get around to labeling them illegal.
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It does matter in the current political climate. Just look at California. They recently labeled anything semi auto an "assault" weapon and thus illegal. Look at the"assault" weapons ban of 1994. Labels mean a lot.

Now, I agree with you in the fact that it's stupid but no one is going to care who thought what in Normandy

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Come on guys/gals - step out of your box

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A thing of beauty in the eye of a certain beholder perhaps.

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It's obviously been designed for those who watch "West World" and want to live the dream. Sort of like most AR15/M4 owners that hang all the tactical **** off of them, stuff they will NEVER, EVER have a use for, turning what was once a handy little rifle into an overweight, ill handling club.

Just sayin!
Keith
 
Chiappa resurrected the M6 in a really horrible fashion, complete with foam stock inserts and plastic picatinney rails.

It's $750 worth of cheaply made, inaccurate gun ugliness.
 
Okay, now that most of you are finished trashing the rifle....

I have one. It doesn't have the "flash-hider", and I took the forward mount panels off - it was like grabbing a cheese-grater.
It doesn't have any "tacti-cool" stuff hanging on it

I set the stock (which is adjustable) to a length that fits my 5'5" wife. I set the cheek-piece (which is adjustable) to her liking also. She likes it, and it shoots 2" @ 75 yds.

It's lightweight, adjustable, as water-proof as a rifle can be, and I paid $280 for it.

Is it ugly ? oh, mercy me yes.
I won't be concerned about it getting scratched out in the woods.

does it work ? Absolutely. And it works well.
 
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