fredj338
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A supposedly sim, but results will vary quite a bit with caliber. Runs great in 357sig & 10mm. 2400 will give better results in the magnums. I like them both.
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Accurate 9 versus unique 2400?
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BD flaws......
S&W stated that cold temperature caused problems with this powder. I was told that they also had problems getting a steady fps reading at the lower temperatures, in their tests.
Here in Nevada I seldom shot outside if the weather is lower than 38-40 degrees but have gone as high as 95 degrees.
I use BD as a medium to maximum loading in 38 special and .357 magmum loads in J frame snubs to K and L frame revolvers. I have yet to have any problems with ANY data that has been printed over the years from 1970 to 2013.
A chrony at my side probably helped me keep out of harms way, though................
Sorry for the hijack.
BD flaws......
S&W stated that cold temperature caused problems with this powder. I was told that they also had problems getting a steady fps reading at the lower temperatures, in their tests.
Here in Nevada I seldom shot outside if the weather is lower than 38-40 degrees but have gone as high as 95 degrees.
I use BD as a medium to maximum loading in 38 special and .357 magmum loads in J frame snubs to K and L frame revolvers. I have yet to have any problems with ANY data that has been printed over the years from 1970 to 2013.
A chrony at my side probably helped me keep out of harms way, though................
Sorry for the hijack.
Collo Rosso
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Have had great results with 2400 in 357mag and only got to do a couple loads in 44mag before running out. Found 2 pounds of #9 and so far so good. Both seem to get dirty at lighter loads.
With a pound of #9 left I'm starting to get a little worried about having no magnum powder.
With a pound of #9 left I'm starting to get a little worried about having no magnum powder.
fredj338
Member
The slower the powder the higher the pressures needed to get complete combustion. Some download a bit better than others, like 2400 vs H110, but if you want medium magnum loads, drop to a medium burner in the Unique/Universal/Powerpistol range.
Collo Rosso
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As soon as I get a chance (want to help me hang some drywall?) I'm going to try some 44mag with HS-6. I've got about 1/2 a pound left and had some good results with it for 357mag.
scooter123
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By Gosh and by Golly went to a local Gun and Knife show today and was amazed, a reloading supply dealer had recieved a shipment from Alliant that included 2400 and Power Pistol. Since I'm very well stocked in the middle burn rate handgun powders I passed on the Power Pistol but did pick up 2 lbs. of 2400 to experiment with. Another dealer has at least 10 1 lbs. bottles of HS-6 along with a couple of 8 lbs. kegs of Titegroup.
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THEWELSHM
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picked up some Alliant 2400 today, I like Accurate#9 but hear they are similar?
thewelshm
thewelshm
AA-9 is a bit faster than 2400. In. 44 mag for instance, with 240-250 gr bullets, 2400 loads will go up to 21 grains or so, AA-9 will top out about 18 grs. Check a reliable manual or powder manufacturer's data for specifics.
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Collo Rosso
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ruggyh
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Can only speak to their use in 500 S&W (and 460).
Both are good powders.
I tend to favor 2400 with jacketed bullets and A 9 with monolithic bullets.
For my hunting loads H110 for jacketed and A 9 for copper.
Good luck and be safe
Ruggy
Both are good powders.
I tend to favor 2400 with jacketed bullets and A 9 with monolithic bullets.
For my hunting loads H110 for jacketed and A 9 for copper.
Good luck and be safe
Ruggy
Yes they both are gunpowders best used in magnum handguns with some rifle applications. Don't think they can share data, pressure curves or applications.
venomballistics
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#9 has a little more punch than 2400 but not as much flexibility.
Still, #9 can encroach on H110's territory and do so without the tight 3% from max thing H110 is notorious for.
Still, #9 can encroach on H110's territory and do so without the tight 3% from max thing H110 is notorious for.
In some calbiers and weights of bullets....
If you give up anything with 2400, it ain't much. And in some calibers and weights of bullets it outperforms 296/110. I haven't looked at the data to see if Acc #9 can do the same thing.
I use 2400 for .357 full power. But if I dont find some more, I wont be for long.
For me, 2400 has out performed H110/w296 in every comparison (in revolvers anyway 4" & 6") .
less signs of over-preasure, less flame, and less recoil but higher velocity and accuracy.
I hear real good things about #9 in full power loads too, but I have no personal experience with it. Would love to get some though.
Cant speak for universal either.
If you give up anything with 2400, it ain't much. And in some calibers and weights of bullets it outperforms 296/110. I haven't looked at the data to see if Acc #9 can do the same thing.
silentflyer
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As mentioned above the old "Skeeter loads" have worked for me for years, I only have 3 pistol powders on the shelf, 2400,H110/296, and Unique.
I do have some Lil'gun for 22 Hornet loads in a rifle.
I do have some Lil'gun for 22 Hornet loads in a rifle.
cowboy4evr
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I need to clarify the old " skeeter load " . As posted quite a ways above is not correct . He mentioned using a 158 gr cast bullet crimped in the top lube groove in 38 spl cases . This in not correct ,the case volume could be quite different than skeeters load !
The skeeter load is using the lyman 358156 cast bullet of approx 155-160grs , gc'd w/2 crimp grooves . The lower crimp groove was for loading in 38spl cases and the top crimp groove in 357 magnum cases . It gave approx the same case capacity in either case. His load was using 13.5 grs / 2400 powder. ( I called alliant recently , there is NO difference between the " old " and the " new " 2400 as far as burn rate. He said that if they changed the burn rate the gov't would not allow them to call it " 2400 " anymore ).
I have used skeeters load in both cases (38 and 357,crimped accordlingly) with complete success using the lyman 358156 cast bullet design . It was originally designed by Ray Thompson , a forest ranger many many years ago . Today I only load in 357 magnum cases as I have plenty so don't need to load in 38spl cases .
BTW , Tom @ accurate molds has it in a plain base version . I have it in 2 , 4/cav molds . I like it that much !
The skeeter load is using the lyman 358156 cast bullet of approx 155-160grs , gc'd w/2 crimp grooves . The lower crimp groove was for loading in 38spl cases and the top crimp groove in 357 magnum cases . It gave approx the same case capacity in either case. His load was using 13.5 grs / 2400 powder. ( I called alliant recently , there is NO difference between the " old " and the " new " 2400 as far as burn rate. He said that if they changed the burn rate the gov't would not allow them to call it " 2400 " anymore ).
I have used skeeters load in both cases (38 and 357,crimped accordlingly) with complete success using the lyman 358156 cast bullet design . It was originally designed by Ray Thompson , a forest ranger many many years ago . Today I only load in 357 magnum cases as I have plenty so don't need to load in 38spl cases .
BTW , Tom @ accurate molds has it in a plain base version . I have it in 2 , 4/cav molds . I like it that much !
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Steve C
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Unique is quite a bit faster than AA9 and AA5 would be the similar powder in the Accurate line. AA9 and 2400 are IMO very similar. AA9 is less dense than 2400 and of smaller grain size. If your powder measure doesn't seal well AA9 can leak. Loads using AA9 are generally 1.0 gr less than 2400 at maximum in the manuals and other equivalent loads.
I have both powders on hand and for .357 mag like 12.2 grs of AA9 with hard cast 158gr SWC for a full power load at around 1,250 fps from a 4" revolver.
I have both powders on hand and for .357 mag like 12.2 grs of AA9 with hard cast 158gr SWC for a full power load at around 1,250 fps from a 4" revolver.
Fishslayer
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
Somebody described BD as "the psycho girlfriend of powders."
Wouldn't know about that. My mentor swears by it for .357 Magnum and I have futzed about with it in 9mm, .357 Magnum and .45ACP just for grins. It worked OK in all with standard primers.
At one time Alliant warned against using it in .41 Magnum. No idea why.
Like Titegroup I'm not sure I would be comfortable tapdancing around maximums with it...
Qc Pistolero
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BigBill
Absent Comrade
Unique I use for leadcast in 38, 357, 41, 44. 45acp(FMJ too).
2400 I use in 357, 41, 44 magnum loads.
The 296 hotter loads flame cut the throats.
I need to replace the 2400 & unique powders soon.
2400 I use in 357, 41, 44 magnum loads.
The 296 hotter loads flame cut the throats.
I need to replace the 2400 & unique powders soon.
fixitfred
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When I started Unique and 2400 was all I used and all I needed. Fast forward and up until recently I could not find any 2400 so my powder guy recommended #9. I've been feeding my 357 and 44 mag a steady diet but then I happened upon some 2400. I vowed to buy all they had if I ever found it but I only got a couple of pounds because I was pretty well stocked with #9. When the powder shortage was in full swing I bought what ever I ran into so I have a couple of lbs of H110 too.
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