After years of declining crime, a spike in city violence

[John R]

If your a thug, your going to get treated like a thug.
99.9% of the dealings I have with people go very well.

 

[kbm6893]

Eric Garner's wife just turned down 5 million bucks from the city. That is why people fight with the police. It's a payday. Funny thing is she'll get less than 1/3 after paying lawyers and professional agitators.

 

[cmort666]

One would think that we have matured past the Us vs Them attitude.

And it puzzles me when people who support the 2A and the American way of life, who don't want their rights infringed upon can pass judgement on others when they have never been in their shoes.

I've never been in financial services. That doesn't stop me from knowing that what Bernie Madoff did was wrong.

If I can't criticize a cop for shooting an unarmed man for obeying his orders because I've never been a cop, then I can't criticize a thug for trying to disarm a cop and shoot him because I've never been a thug.

 

[kbm6893]

I'm saying I don't consider justice in the case a foregone conclusion.

So if a jury, who hears all of the forensic evidence, and all of the testimony, comes to a conclusion that you don't agree with, there is no justice?

You clearly have an issue with cops. And there is always a reason. Most people go through life without even thinking about them unless they pass one on the road and they're driving too fast

 

[kbm6893]

I've never been in financial services. That doesn't stop me from knowing that what Bernie Madoff did was wrong.

If I can't criticize a cop for shooting an unarmed man for obeying his orders because I've never been a cop, then I can't criticize a thug for trying to disarm a cop and shoot him because I've never been a thug.

What unarmed man was shot by a cop for obeying his orders?

 

[cmort666]

What unarmed man was shot by a cop for obeying his orders?

The guy in South Carolina, Levar Jones.

 

[ladder13]

People who live in those buildings do it every day.

Yes, we did. I lived in the James Monroe Houses, 805 Taylor Ave, Bronx NY during the heroin heyday of the mid 60's- early 70's. 8th floor of a 13 story building.

The elevators were constantly out of service, either one of the other(2 elevators, one odd, one even floors), and sometimes it was easier to just walk the stairwells.
Most of the time the light bulbs were either broken or removed. The hallways smelled of urine, and were littered with glassine envelopes and "works".
It was dangerous, but we were young, and it was just part of life in the projects. The only weapons we had were street smarts and young legs.

The vast majority of the cops were cool. We had a cop named Maury Wills(nickname), called that because he looked like him and was fast as his namesake. He was a good guy, always looking out for the young folks. Never found out his real name.
Then there was Butler, his real name, quiet guy who just went about his job, all business. We feared him because he didn't talk much.
We always knew when the cops were in the stairwells, we could hear their equipment rattling on their belts.

And now we come to Mr X , a real dirt bag who was as shady as they come. Won't get into the details.

Years after moving out of the projects, I went back one day to see who was still there. Most people had left but there were still many families left, some people still to this day . A guy who I grew up with took over his parents apt.

Anyways, I heard from some folks that Mr X was killed in another city housing project on the lower east side, a couple years after we left Monroe Houses. Can't say I was surprised by that, and neither was anyone else I spoke to.
There was much speculation about who killed him, street thugs or the crooks he ran with. They say his killer was never caught.