What's everyone's thoughts on aftermarket hammer? I have been tuning up my 686 and am considering the TK Custom Diamond speed or either of the Apex hammers , Evolution or hammer. Any thoughts out there on these or any others I may have missed. Thanks!
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Aftermarket hammer?
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Protocall_Design
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I would check out the Welcome to RevUp Action®! - RevUp Action® hammer kit. It makes it so the trigger pull smoothly goes down to single action pull weight by the end of the pull. That way you get the convenience of the DA and the shot placement of the SA, both in one. There are 3, 15 second videos about it on the Rev Up home page.
Protocall_Design
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We have a bunch of K+L hammers in stock right now, out of N frame for the moment.
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I have three of the RevUp Action hammers on 627s. Utterly fantastic! Super well engineered. Complete instructions and kit, even a small thread locker and springs.
I had another hammer from a forgotten maker, that was pretty useless. RevUp is pretty fantastic!!
I had another hammer from a forgotten maker, that was pretty useless. RevUp is pretty fantastic!!
Protocall_Design
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Click on "Go Shopping" at the bottom of the videos on the home page.
Sorry man, I’m just not getting it. I go to the home page and it’s blank?
Solution of non-existent problem. Jerry Miculek shots factory guns abet likely they have been slicked up.
I read a interview with a S&W executive once and he was asked what was the best way to slick up their revolvers. His response was “shoot it” “shoot it a lot”.
I read a interview with a S&W executive once and he was asked what was the best way to slick up their revolvers. His response was “shoot it” “shoot it a lot”.
StrawHat
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A rather trite statement, maybe even condescending.
Not all of us can shoot at the same level of Mr Jerry. For those mere mortals who actually have to work to buy their revolvers and ammunition, something like the Rev Up hammer might be of good benefit. If I were still competing, I might try one. Now, 3 decades passed my prime, it would be nice to try but not necessarily in my immediate future.
Probably the best advice ever given. It would take many thousands of rounds to accomplish but it would definitely smooth out the contact surfaces that need to be smoothed out. The very best revolversmiths actually know what parts need to be touched with a stone and what parts need no polishing. I have several “custom” revolvers. My PPC revolver was built be Davis and came with a nice action. 10 years later, it was even smoother. Factory mainspring but very smooth. I have another one that was converted to DAO by Andy Horvath. A superb action! I have torn it apart several times to see what he did and still can not duplicate it.
Unfortunately, these type of revolvers smiths are dying off and not being replaced. So, it takes innovations and innovators to satisfy the need and demand for good actions. I am happy there are some of both schools around.
Kevin
I have been doing a lot of hammer jobs. Apex and TK are great, you can also bob your stock hammer, with the proper springs (I only use wilson combat) You can get your trigger down to 5lb pull and with Federal primers it works great.
Ah I have also been down that rabbit hole buying and installing parts for more speed. That rabbit hole can get mighty deep.
The toothpaste action job is a easy way to slick up the trigger pull.
Protocall_Design
Vendor
There are getting to be fewer and fewer revolver gunsmiths as time goes on. Those that are left have a months long waiting list. Then there is the cost of shipping your gun, and the chance it may be lost or stolen in transit.
One of the primary reasons for the RevUp hammer kit is the ability to ship it to where the gun is and allow the owner to have a really good action simply by trading parts. If the gun owner doesn't feel comfortable doing that, he or she can go to a local smith and have them do it. There is a big advantage to keeping the gun in your possession.
The other advantage is the quality of the action after installing the kit. All the other aftermarket hammers are some (usually) lighter version of a factory hammer. They all have the same linkage and pivot points as factory.
Mine is the first one to have different geometry with a toggle linkage on the hammer that gives the trigger compound leverage on the hammer. This is clearly shown in the videos on the website using a special trigger pull gage that I designed and built. It is now patented, rather than patent pending.
Anyone can be an armchair quarterback and criticize something they know nothing about. It takes a lot of time, effort, money and skill to invent and bring to market something that is truly new and different that has never been done before. So far, everyone that has bought this product has been happy with it. Several have bought multiples.
There are those who are fine with a factory DA, and those who want something better. There is plenty of room in the world for all. This product is not for everyone, but then nothing else is for everyone, either. Each person has their own set of likes, wants, and needs. We can appreciate each other as is, if we so choose.
One of the primary reasons for the RevUp hammer kit is the ability to ship it to where the gun is and allow the owner to have a really good action simply by trading parts. If the gun owner doesn't feel comfortable doing that, he or she can go to a local smith and have them do it. There is a big advantage to keeping the gun in your possession.
The other advantage is the quality of the action after installing the kit. All the other aftermarket hammers are some (usually) lighter version of a factory hammer. They all have the same linkage and pivot points as factory.
Mine is the first one to have different geometry with a toggle linkage on the hammer that gives the trigger compound leverage on the hammer. This is clearly shown in the videos on the website using a special trigger pull gage that I designed and built. It is now patented, rather than patent pending.
Anyone can be an armchair quarterback and criticize something they know nothing about. It takes a lot of time, effort, money and skill to invent and bring to market something that is truly new and different that has never been done before. So far, everyone that has bought this product has been happy with it. Several have bought multiples.
There are those who are fine with a factory DA, and those who want something better. There is plenty of room in the world for all. This product is not for everyone, but then nothing else is for everyone, either. Each person has their own set of likes, wants, and needs. We can appreciate each other as is, if we so choose.
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I haven't read all of the entries here yet, its getting late. The comment about non-existent problem did stick out a bit. I shot a lot of competition revolver in my day. I could not begin to count the ammunition I shot in over 30 years of serious PPC competition. Luckily, I didn't have to pay for much of it. Was good enough to win a few things, Distinguished revolver, Service revolver, Service Pistol agg at Nationals. Never had any custom parts other than polished and lighter springs. None were allowed in the service pistol stuff and I don't think any were even available for the open guns until right at the end of my serious shooting time.
That being said, I would have gladly jumped on any legal way to make the gun run smoother. No way would most sane people spend the time and money involved shooting and dry firing to get a D/A press to hold 10 ring at 50 yards. I was lucky enough for it to be part of my job and had support from outside or I probably wouldn't have. Thank God I have a great wife who used to go to bed to " make the clicking go away" before we had a big enough house I could go upstairs to dry fire nightly.
So now people have a chance to change some parts and hopefully make the gun run smoother, and drop the hammer without moving the sights, a bit easier. Hopefully, without quite so much expense and time involved, or hunting down a great gunsmith. I think that's great. Nothing will make anyone jump from marksman to master without some effort, so they will still have to work to reach a high level. Good luck.....
That being said, I would have gladly jumped on any legal way to make the gun run smoother. No way would most sane people spend the time and money involved shooting and dry firing to get a D/A press to hold 10 ring at 50 yards. I was lucky enough for it to be part of my job and had support from outside or I probably wouldn't have. Thank God I have a great wife who used to go to bed to " make the clicking go away" before we had a big enough house I could go upstairs to dry fire nightly.
So now people have a chance to change some parts and hopefully make the gun run smoother, and drop the hammer without moving the sights, a bit easier. Hopefully, without quite so much expense and time involved, or hunting down a great gunsmith. I think that's great. Nothing will make anyone jump from marksman to master without some effort, so they will still have to work to reach a high level. Good luck.....
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