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I’ve never had a more difficult time booking a flight two months out. They’ve lost two paid itineraries and to book the third there is an $800 increase. All within 4 hours today.
Needless to say but I put them on STBY.
I don’t want to say the airline, AAlthough they are one of the largest.
The second reservation was done on the phone to an airline rep. and recieved a locator code which showed Nothing!
I wish I could say I feel better but I don’t.
 
Right now anything that requires connections is subject to change. A buddy told me that on a recent trip overseas he received almost daily texts while changes to the schedule. The airline industry isn't close to being staffed back to pre-COVID levels but demand has skyrocketed. Throw in the staff they do get going down with illness. IT issues (hello SouthWest), and some weather fun and the industry unravels pretty quickly.
 
Looks like the woke decision of the airlines to layoff those
employees, including flight crew for refusing the Covid jab
is now coming home to roost.

I used to fly for one of the majors back in the 80's and early
90's. I can tell you that lousy airline management will have a
heavy toll on the employees and traveling public.
 
I have to say my flight from Scranton to Orlando with a change in Charlotte went surprising smooth.
Scranton is a nice little airport. Charlotte is a nice big airport.
Orlando airport is a sprawling **** show. I was glad to find the baggage claim and taxi stand.

American Airlines did a good job. I'm glad that the mask mandate was rescinded. No disruptions.

I booked online. Again, no issues and constant email updates.

JMHO YMMV.
 
A poor business plan, poorly executed. I am lucky to be able to
mostly avoid them. Reconsidering trains for a visit to the West.
 
Flying Greyhound buses. Same service and experience, just don’t have to tolerate it as long. And I worked at a Greyhound bus depot in the 70’s….
 
We booked a round trip to Japan out of Portland, OR, months ago. Originally a direct flight. Then changed to via Seattle. Then return trip from Japan to the US in June was moved up a day.

Originally, we thought no worries. A day doesn't make make much difference to us. Then my wife noticed the return transit via Seattle had us waiting nine hours for the 27 minutes to Portland flight!

Fortunately, my wife caught it, got on the phone to the airlines, and was able to change the layover to two hours, which is about perfect in case we are running a little late.

The advice to keep your eye on the ball for unexpected itinerary changes is on target.
 
Erich said:
All I know is that I sure enjoyed flying without a mask yesterday. :)
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That won’t last long, the politicians will find a way to get that useless muzzle mandate back in place. Don’t want to give the impression that the people have individual freedoms. Need to keep the control hand strong…
 
Huge delays at Sydney Airport over Easter and the two weeks of School Holidays. The boss of QANTAS (our major carrier) tried to blame the flying public for the airport chaos saying that they have forgotten how to fly (two years of COViD) which delayed baggage and security inspections. Greedy airlines in my book. If they only have 50% staff capacity, why are they selling 100% ticket sales?
 
Moo Moo said:
Huge delays at Sydney Airport over Easter and the two weeks of School Holidays. The boss of QANTAS (our major carrier) tried to blame the flying public for the airport chaos saying that they have forgotten how to fly (two years of COViD) which delayed baggage and security inspections. Greedy airlines in my book. If they only have 50% staff capacity, why are they selling 100% ticket sales?
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It's not just the airlines. The airports laid off lots of people and are now criminally short, but somehow they cannot tell the airlines that they don't have the capacity because of all the weird landing slot rules. Manchester Airport is the poster child for this nonsense.

Manchester Airport cannot take shortcuts on security - Shapps - BBC News
 
From the late 1960s through the early 2000s, I flew hundreds of thousands of miles. I enjoyed flying in those days, and I can't remember any truly bad experiences other than my inability to sleep on overseas flights. I've only flown twice in the last 15 years, and it is my firm intent to never set foot on an aircraft again.

I'm not the only one in my family that feels that way. My cousin retired as a senior captain for a major airline, so he can fly anywhere on his pass. How does he choose to travel when he doesn't want to drive? Amtrak.
 
quikdraw67 said:
I have to say my flight from Scranton to Orlando with a change in Charlotte went surprising smooth.
Scranton is a nice little airport. Charlotte is a nice big airport.
Orlando airport is a sprawling **** show. I was glad to find the baggage claim and taxi stand.

American Airlines did a good job. I'm glad that the mask mandate was rescinded. No disruptions.

I booked online. Again, no issues and constant email updates.

JMHO YMMV.
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Pretty sure Allegiant flies from Scranton of Orlando Sanford Airport with non stop flights. It's only 33 miles north of Orlando Airport.

I know you can find flights from Sanford to Cincinnati sometimes for $35.00, but they'll charge you $75 for one checked bag.

To the best of my knowledge all their flights are non stop.
 
LVSteve said:
It's not just the airlines. The airports laid off lots of people and are now criminally short, but somehow they cannot tell the airlines that they don't have the capacity because of all the weird landing slot rules. Manchester Airport is the poster child for this nonsense.

Manchester Airport cannot take shortcuts on security - Shapps - BBC News
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So bad that AA no longer have a direct flight from Philly to Manchester. Only one of their transatlantic flights out of PHL to be "removed this year" Dave_n
 
quikdraw67 said:
I have to say my flight from Scranton to Orlando with a change in Charlotte went surprising smooth.
Scranton is a nice little airport. Charlotte is a nice big airport.

JMHO YMMV.
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The Charlotte airport is the monster that ate west Charlotte. It destroyed several communities. The entire neighborhood where I grew up there is now a massive parking lot for Hertz.
 
And people wonder why I don't fly! I'm running down to Charleston SC this Sunday. Not too bad of a drive and I'm gonna need my car. Some place called John's Island; maybe 10 - 12 hrs., tops. No biggie.
I'm heading to my other sister's place outside San Antonio, where I should fly, but that's to retrieve a couple of Dad's rifles. She's old & doesn't want the "hassle" of shipping them. I actually like looking at the country from ground level. I wouldn't mind the detour North on the way home to check out Meramek Caverns in Missouri again. Cool place. If something grabs our interest, we can check it out.
Even with airport hassles, I'm pretty sure flying is safer than driving; and a heck of a lot quicker. But I don't mind checking out little landmarks. Heck, there may even be a couple gun shops or other equally exciting places of interest off the main highways.
 
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The way things are going and my age, its a good chance I will never get on a plane again.

Have had it with all the BS of doing air travel. I see it as 3 different problems. The airport itself, the carrier and the TSA nonsense.

I never say never but unless it involves a real large distance or a serious emergency if we can drive it thats the way it will be. I used to say anything more than 10 hours we will fly, now its like up to 20 and I/we will still drive.

If we go to Hawaii or Alaska again of course we will fly.:)
 
I flew recently to Germany and back home again via American Airlines, and really didn't have a bad experience. I spent the extra bucks for "Premium Economy" seating, and was glad I did...it was well-worth it.

German airports don't strike me as very user-friendly, but that's not American's fault.
 
bigwheelzip said:
Yup, it's like a time machine, taking you back to what flying Coach Class was 50 years ago.
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The various airlines have all created various mid-levels of seating now, between "Coach" and "First-Class", and there's no industry standard. On the American Airlines Boeing 777s I flew from Charlotte to Frankfurt, and from Munich to Charlotte, "Premium Economy" got me two checked bags instead of one; priority check-in at the ticket counter; priority boarding; a bigger, better seat with more legroom; and an upgraded meal served on a china plate with real silverware. On my flights between Charlotte and Baltimore, I noted that the First Class seats on those domestic airliners were the same as the ones I had in the 777s.

And for those with REAL money to burn, there's this...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2hJxyF7mok[/ame]
 
wood714 said:
Pretty sure Allegiant flies from Scranton of Orlando Sanford Airport with non stop flights. It's only 33 miles north of Orlando Airport.

I know you can find flights from Sanford to Cincinnati sometimes for $35.00, but they'll charge you $75 for one checked bag.

To the best of my knowledge all their flights are non stop.
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At one time Alligent did fly out of Scranton. Not any more. And I checked their website to verify that.

American Airlines is doing a good job, so far.
 
SMSgt said:
The Charlotte airport is the monster that ate west Charlotte. It destroyed several communities. The entire neighborhood where I grew up there is now a massive parking lot for Hertz.
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Yeah after the merger mania, Pittsburgh airport got quiet. It was a hub for US Air. If I flew from Scranton to Chicago, the change would be in Pittsburgh.

No longer the case. Scranton to Charlotte. and then Charlotte to wherever.
 
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