Airsoft optics for 15-22 ?
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little_airwolf
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Buy a bushnell trs-25. Its roughly the same price and wont break.
Just my opinion.
Buy good optics, spend the money and only have to buy once.
Tough lesson to learn after buying 4 cheap scopes/rds.
Just my opinion.
Buy good optics, spend the money and only have to buy once.
Tough lesson to learn after buying 4 cheap scopes/rds.
GhostMutt
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Give it a go, it'll always make for a good 'shoot through the scope sniper' shot when it goes poot, as is the case with most China made ebay f'acogs.
That being said my Ma & Pa bought me a cheap china Triji'CON' rmr to angle mount on my 15-22, after an age to get it sighted in....i have been pleasantly surprised at how well made it is and after a few purposefully dished out knocks it still holds zero.....£30 vs £400+ when all i really wanted it on there for was to help the look my £250 ($450) mtc viper connect looks weird without it.
So all in all, looks great and works....although i am not silly enough to advocate it over the real deal and am aware that it is like the guy who falls off a skyscraper and on the way down keeps repeating 'so far....so good..........so far......so good'
That being said my Ma & Pa bought me a cheap china Triji'CON' rmr to angle mount on my 15-22, after an age to get it sighted in....i have been pleasantly surprised at how well made it is and after a few purposefully dished out knocks it still holds zero.....£30 vs £400+ when all i really wanted it on there for was to help the look my £250 ($450) mtc viper connect looks weird without it.
So all in all, looks great and works....although i am not silly enough to advocate it over the real deal and am aware that it is like the guy who falls off a skyscraper and on the way down keeps repeating 'so far....so good..........so far......so good'
jbarchitect68
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I put one on mine to make it look like its big brother.
The reticle lines are pretty fat and if I wasn't trying to match my acog I probably wouldnt have done it.
The reticle lines are pretty fat and if I wasn't trying to match my acog I probably wouldnt have done it.
TheMaineEvent
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If you're willing to throw away 80 bucks in the event it fails, which is likely, then go for it.
cyphertext
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Stick with Bushnell or Primary Arms for the budget type optics.
Dezfan
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Why take a chance?
PA and Bushnell both offer quality optics for your budget.
For another $20.00, you could pick up Vortex Strikefire.
PA and Bushnell both offer quality optics for your budget.
For another $20.00, you could pick up Vortex Strikefire.
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Nothing wrong with a budget optic on a 1522, but the trick is to select the budget optics that have a good reputation for working as they should and holding up over time.
Listen to the guys here about Bushnell and Primary Arms.
Listen to the guys here about Bushnell and Primary Arms.
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I just put airsoft optics on my AR Pistol (5.56/.223) but they are temporary. They are Magpul PTS or something like that. Composite knockoffs basically.
cyphertext
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Those are sights, not optics.
Ibmikey
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PSA recently had the Bushnell TRS 25 on sale for $49 (normally about $89), even at full price it is a sight that will give good service for years. The airsoft stuff is a **** shoot.
I'm guessing it will be about as useful as the fake gun its meant for....
That's good , you sound like the little guy in the back of my head.
Kayback
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To be the voice of "dissent" I run quite a lot of Airsoft stuff on my 15-22. My 15-22 is babied much more than my Airsoft stuff ever was. Anything that will break good quality Airsoft components will break a 15-22.
There are good and bad quality Airsoft components though. At my local Airsoft shop they have a scope I am dying for (Spectre). Nice clear glass, nice sharp lines, but the guy behind the counter refuses to sell it to me because he knows what I want to do with it and he won't even sell it to customers to put on a GBB Airsoft gun because the vibration of them firing will damage the sight.
I have used various Chinese no name brand and some brand names (Like NC Star and Tru-Glo). A decent enough Airsoft scope will work for the 15-22. Because I like playing dress up with my 15-22 I have owned a couple of red dot, a couple of holo style sights and a couple of magnified optics. The ONLY scope I have had issues with was a real-steel budget scope. I ran out of elevation on it.
For decent budget grade stuff I'd happily look at the NC Star range. Which is a far cry from what I was saying a couple of years ago!
No name H1 look-alike in "La Rue" mount. Worked great. Reduced battery life but no other issues:
Another setup I tried:
NC Star holo style projector:
Current setup, the NC Star SRT
The real world scope which gave issues.
Edit, I still have these scopes, none were replaced due to failure, except the real steel one. They were replaced due to playing Barbie. The Airsoft stuff is back on my Airsoft guns.
There are good and bad quality Airsoft components though. At my local Airsoft shop they have a scope I am dying for (Spectre). Nice clear glass, nice sharp lines, but the guy behind the counter refuses to sell it to me because he knows what I want to do with it and he won't even sell it to customers to put on a GBB Airsoft gun because the vibration of them firing will damage the sight.
I have used various Chinese no name brand and some brand names (Like NC Star and Tru-Glo). A decent enough Airsoft scope will work for the 15-22. Because I like playing dress up with my 15-22 I have owned a couple of red dot, a couple of holo style sights and a couple of magnified optics. The ONLY scope I have had issues with was a real-steel budget scope. I ran out of elevation on it.
For decent budget grade stuff I'd happily look at the NC Star range. Which is a far cry from what I was saying a couple of years ago!
No name H1 look-alike in "La Rue" mount. Worked great. Reduced battery life but no other issues:
Another setup I tried:
NC Star holo style projector:
Current setup, the NC Star SRT
The real world scope which gave issues.
Edit, I still have these scopes, none were replaced due to failure, except the real steel one. They were replaced due to playing Barbie. The Airsoft stuff is back on my Airsoft guns.
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TheMaineEvent
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I'm curious as to what the thought process is in using Airsoft items at all. If someone decides to go and spend $300-400 on a real firearm what's the thinking behind exploring optics that are made for Airsoft?
You can buy purpose built optics that don't cost much that should be just fine for a 15-22 so why dip into the Airsoft products at all? All I can think is that it's for the "tacticool" aspect.
You can buy purpose built optics that don't cost much that should be just fine for a 15-22 so why dip into the Airsoft products at all? All I can think is that it's for the "tacticool" aspect.
GhostMutt
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I got a quality optic for my 15-22, however it looked quite strange with it having to be double mounted at the front due to the dedicated mount being designed for 11'dovetails. It is a quality scope but looks very strange...so the tacticool factor played its role...my folks got me a china made $20 TrijiCON rmr to angle mount under the gap created by the mounting of my primary optic. I never intended for it to be used it was purely for show to balance the look of the rifle...$20 was cheap for this cosmetic frivolity...i am happy with the look, as stated earlier what i am more happy with is the fact that after zeroing in, which took a long time, as the elevation and windage adjustments are 'up for down' and 'left for right' and vice versa...lol it took an age to zero it. Since then it has actually performed well and can perforate tin cans at 25 yards all day long. To use something like this as your primary optic....you are asking for disappointment! For a fun showy accessory that can hit the side of a barn why not.....but believe me if i had the $400 for a real RMR then i would mount it in a flash. Don't expect much and you may be pleasantly surprised.
Plus it does look 'tacticool' haha
RedNeck Jim
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You never intended for the scope to be used but just wanted to look at it?
When folks joke about gun porn, you take it seriously don't you?
cyphertext
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Kayback does bring up a good point... My son's airsoft guns see much more abuse than his 15-22. The airsoft guns have hit the ground hard a few times and a couple of them cost almost as much as a 15-22.
GhostMutt
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You never intended for the scope to be used but just wanted to look at it?
When folks joke about gun porn, you take it seriously don't you?
When i say i didn't intend it to be used i mean for the rapid fire comps i shoot, for plinking and tin can alley, fine. I wasn't intending for the RMR scope to be any good, with it being so cheap, but yes 'gun porn' wise i have lusted after a 45' angle mounted mini red dot for some time and the oddity factor of my primary optic, clinched the ebay deal.
My folks, bless them asked if i wanted anything for my gun for xmas (they fell in love with it when i treated my dad to a range night for his b'day) so they got me the RMR.
I take all porn seriously....you should see my guitar porn
Kayback
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Well for one, ITAR. I can not easily purchase a Primary Arms or even TRS 25 without bundles of paperwork.
Following on that, the 15-22 is a cheap gun. Is it worth putting the equivalent of another 15-22 on the side of it simply to aim?
It does also allow one to try out multiple layouts on a budget. For less than the cost of a "better" sight I tried about 5, sending thousands of rounds down range with each sight with no failures.
I will admit when I narrowed down what I wanted I bought a $150 scope.
Following on that, the 15-22 is a cheap gun. Is it worth putting the equivalent of another 15-22 on the side of it simply to aim?
It does also allow one to try out multiple layouts on a budget. For less than the cost of a "better" sight I tried about 5, sending thousands of rounds down range with each sight with no failures.
I will admit when I narrowed down what I wanted I bought a $150 scope.
ScrapmasterFlex
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This will probably ruffle a few feathers and possibly just make people mad but I believe it's worth posting
With firearms optics, there is one absolute Golden Rule: BUY Once, CRY Once! Spend AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE on Optics - ALL Your Optics, AS MUCH as you can, the very best optic you can. You will NEVER EVER Regret having too much optic or "too good" a scope, you WILL be mad when your low-quality optic breaks, AND IT WILL, Eventually.
I have two experiences with purchasing low-quality optics. I bought two at around the same time, when I was about brand new to buying/owning firearms. A larger sized NcStar red dot /laser combo sight I bought for my Dad to go with the Zastava PAP 7.62x39mm I bought him for his 60th Bday, and a little NcStar open-type "reflex sight" w/ 4 reticles for my new 15-22 (You see this type of sight EVERYWHERE, Cheaper Than Dirt sells about 5 of them, all the exact same w/ different brands, they are everywhere. For about $40 bucks. I've seen people try to charge $100 and up for them, acting like its a premium version, it's not lol.)
The Laser/Light combo is about useless. I am not sure it ever really zeroed, and it certainly never seems to hit where it's supposed to hit whenever the rifle comes out. I honestly would remove it immediately the first time I took out that rifle in the defense/in the case of SHTF etc.
The little "holosight" type thing, I had some success right at the beginning. I read how changing the reticles loses your zero each time, so I chose the circle and dot reticle (very much like an EOTech), zeroed it with minimal problems, and then I had an amazing time at the 25-yd Indoor Range... it was shooting out the star ! Amazing really.
Then about 4-6 months after I bought it, my best friend was shooting it, when it somehow split horizontally down the middle. Like , half of it (with the glass part and battery compartment) split away like peeling off half of a sandwich, and the bottom half w/ now-exposed circuitry sat connected to the rail. So about $45 and $75, down the drain really.
I bought an Aimpoint Micro R-1 (two of them, one for my at-the-time 5.56 AK and one for my 15-22, the other one sits on a shotgun now) and a Daniel Defense mount and put it on my 15-22. In two words : Amazing & Outstanding. This has sat on my 15-22 for the last 4+ years, and it's not coming off. AMAZING .... People shooting my 15-22 declare it the finest and "funnest" aka Most Fun firearm they have shot, and not only my Dad who had never shot an AR before, but my 30 year old younger sister who cried the first time she shot a handgun , can hit cans at 25yds like it's going outta style. Just like a pro, bustin caps left and right.
I have Nikon ProStaffs on three .22LR sporter rifles (a pair of 597s and a Savage Mark II) and they're great, great scopes. a Monarch 5-20x44 sits on my .308 700 build (and I WISH I spent the $1500 on a top quality scope when I could have). And I have two high quality lasers , a Viridian X5L-RS on the Saiga-12 and a LaserMax Genesis on my M&P22C ... you just NEVER cheap out on optics... and when you buy the top quality or at least, Real and Good quality, you are very rewarded and will never be upset at the results.
A fake ACOG, in the end, is one of the worst you can buy. ACOGs are famous for their (dual?) illumination, of tritium or tritium and fiber-optics, AND Their intense, amazing ruggedness and durability. A fake ACOG has neither the illumination nor any semblance of durability, so it's a total fugazy.
With firearms optics, there is one absolute Golden Rule: BUY Once, CRY Once! Spend AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE on Optics - ALL Your Optics, AS MUCH as you can, the very best optic you can. You will NEVER EVER Regret having too much optic or "too good" a scope, you WILL be mad when your low-quality optic breaks, AND IT WILL, Eventually.
I have two experiences with purchasing low-quality optics. I bought two at around the same time, when I was about brand new to buying/owning firearms. A larger sized NcStar red dot /laser combo sight I bought for my Dad to go with the Zastava PAP 7.62x39mm I bought him for his 60th Bday, and a little NcStar open-type "reflex sight" w/ 4 reticles for my new 15-22 (You see this type of sight EVERYWHERE, Cheaper Than Dirt sells about 5 of them, all the exact same w/ different brands, they are everywhere. For about $40 bucks. I've seen people try to charge $100 and up for them, acting like its a premium version, it's not lol.)
The Laser/Light combo is about useless. I am not sure it ever really zeroed, and it certainly never seems to hit where it's supposed to hit whenever the rifle comes out. I honestly would remove it immediately the first time I took out that rifle in the defense/in the case of SHTF etc.
The little "holosight" type thing, I had some success right at the beginning. I read how changing the reticles loses your zero each time, so I chose the circle and dot reticle (very much like an EOTech), zeroed it with minimal problems, and then I had an amazing time at the 25-yd Indoor Range... it was shooting out the star ! Amazing really.
Then about 4-6 months after I bought it, my best friend was shooting it, when it somehow split horizontally down the middle. Like , half of it (with the glass part and battery compartment) split away like peeling off half of a sandwich, and the bottom half w/ now-exposed circuitry sat connected to the rail. So about $45 and $75, down the drain really.
I bought an Aimpoint Micro R-1 (two of them, one for my at-the-time 5.56 AK and one for my 15-22, the other one sits on a shotgun now) and a Daniel Defense mount and put it on my 15-22. In two words : Amazing & Outstanding. This has sat on my 15-22 for the last 4+ years, and it's not coming off. AMAZING .... People shooting my 15-22 declare it the finest and "funnest" aka Most Fun firearm they have shot, and not only my Dad who had never shot an AR before, but my 30 year old younger sister who cried the first time she shot a handgun , can hit cans at 25yds like it's going outta style. Just like a pro, bustin caps left and right.
I have Nikon ProStaffs on three .22LR sporter rifles (a pair of 597s and a Savage Mark II) and they're great, great scopes. a Monarch 5-20x44 sits on my .308 700 build (and I WISH I spent the $1500 on a top quality scope when I could have). And I have two high quality lasers , a Viridian X5L-RS on the Saiga-12 and a LaserMax Genesis on my M&P22C ... you just NEVER cheap out on optics... and when you buy the top quality or at least, Real and Good quality, you are very rewarded and will never be upset at the results.
A fake ACOG, in the end, is one of the worst you can buy. ACOGs are famous for their (dual?) illumination, of tritium or tritium and fiber-optics, AND Their intense, amazing ruggedness and durability. A fake ACOG has neither the illumination nor any semblance of durability, so it's a total fugazy.
Well thats it , $80 , 4x32 Functional Fiber Optics Green Dot Sight Scope with logo.
For what ever the reason my gun porn taste is just stuck on this Acog style.
I have had a good cheep truglo red dot from day 1 thats been 2 years or so & it has worked just fine but now I find I need a little power. I have looked many including the ones suggested here.
If it looks or acts like total junk I can send it back. The only info I can find about who makes it is , it say by CM ? anybody know ?
& thanks for all the comments & pics
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Overpaid Union Thug
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Thanks for the correction. You've earned yourself a nice shiny penny or something.
I have to say I purchased a Chinese Eotech copy and it has been working great and hold zero just fine. My 15-22 is just for fun so if it breaks at some point I'm only out $40. I use a Vortex sight system on my AR and would never think of putting the knockoff on it.
By the way the knock off looks great on the gun. I will try to post a pick tomorrow.
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By the way the knock off looks great on the gun. I will try to post a pick tomorrow.
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Rob1
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I have an ACOG TA01 and an Eotech EXPS3-4 with G33 that I run on my 15-22.
Both are REAL and not knock off copies, I did consider those for a short time then decided I would go for the real thing or not at all.
I will say that this was not a cheap or easy choice and it has taken almost a year to fund both.
BUT, these will be used across several platforms for many years so I consider it a sound investment.
Each to their own, however, my 2 pennies worth, go for the real deal or don't bother.
You will get out of it what you put in. Cheap and cheerful is ok but accuracy and longevity will suffer.
Rob.
Both are REAL and not knock off copies, I did consider those for a short time then decided I would go for the real thing or not at all.
I will say that this was not a cheap or easy choice and it has taken almost a year to fund both.
BUT, these will be used across several platforms for many years so I consider it a sound investment.
Each to their own, however, my 2 pennies worth, go for the real deal or don't bother.
You will get out of it what you put in. Cheap and cheerful is ok but accuracy and longevity will suffer.
Rob.
Thanks , & thanks to all . I over came my lust for the Acog - no name - & went with this for now it had real good reviews.
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Monstrum Tactical 3-9x40 Rifle Scope with Illuminated Range Finder Reticle
cyphertext
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Overpaid Union Thug said:
Glad I could help.
'Thanks , & thanks to all . I over came my lust for the Acog - no name - & went with this for now it had real good reviews.
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Monstrum Tactical 3-9x40 Rifle Scope with Illuminated Range Finder Reticle
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That was fast shipping from amazon.
Not sexy as the acog but I like it so far.
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So I just had to get it on & try it out. This indoor range is only 25 yards.
The bellybutton shots are with the flip up sights.
You can see the next dot up was my aim point & the first round hit over to the right at the triangle I just walked it over a couple clicks at a time.
Not to bad for free hand ?
The bellybutton shots are with the flip up sights.
You can see the next dot up was my aim point & the first round hit over to the right at the triangle I just walked it over a couple clicks at a time.
Not to bad for free hand ?
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