both of these guns used (and fit) the same speed loaders made for the illfaited Charter Arms Bulldog .44spl.
illfated as in the q.c. problems they had years ago, the in and out of business years, the poorly executed "charco" years.....and while they werent bulldogs the new .38 versions ive shot bound up with standard loads.
that being said i got two p.o.s. Bulldog .44spls in the 80's tried twice with two different guns...they werent worth shinola.
but i did have a 3" blued .22lr pathfinder that was down right good and id have no problems buying another old school pathfinder today.