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Hi:
Having too much "Cabin Fever" due to the weather, I have been considering an "Evil Assault Rifle".
1. Ak-47
2. SKS

I was advised in the past to stay away from the "Chinese Manufacture."

Which would be an acceptable manufacture of AK-47s or SKS ?
 
I dislike SKSs. I just can't shoot them because the stock is too short and they punch me in the nose.

Nothing wrong with Chinese. There are Polytech and Norino. Try to go with a Poly milled receiver.
 
I miss the heck out of my Norinco SKS. I loved that thing but it became trade fodder that eventually became a M1A Socom. I still wish I had the Norinco though. I also have a cheap Romanian SAR-1 AK clone that isn't as good a shooter as the Norinco SKS was but it's still all sorts of fun on the cheap. And you don't need foot long bananas hanging out the bottom. They make great shooting 20's and less that are fun for sighting in off the bench.
 
For a new AK, Arsenal offers some of the best. The Yugo O-Paps are two steps below. The best AK value I believe is a VEPR (technically built on an RPK receiver), or a Saiga.

As to SKSs, Russians are considered top, followed by Chinese and other Eastern Bloc rifles. I have two Norincos and they are excellent.
 
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SKS's have firing pin issues which can be fixed easily and cheaply. Just a FYI to the OP.
 
I had the Russian SKS carbine. I loved it...BUT...


Dumb *** me, I though I was being a nice FIL, gave it to my SIL...EX SIL now....He said it was stolen....

I wasn't a cop for nothing...It wasn't listed on the break-in-report... Mighty strange only the SKS I gave him is what he claims is missing, not his other guns.

I'll keep searching the pawn shops for it....


WuzzFuzz
 
Hi:
Having too much "Cabin Fever" due to the weather, I have been considering an "Evil Assault Rifle".
1. Ak-47
2. SKS

I was advised in the past to stay away from the "Chinese Manufacture."

Which would be an acceptable manufacture of AK-47s or SKS ?

I don't know who told you that, but Chinese Norincos and Polytechs are the creme of the crop if you ask me.

I think the AKs are more fun and have better triggers, but the SKS seems to be a stronger built, more accurate, yet less expensive gun. I couldn't decide, so I got one of each.:D

Either rifle is tougher than an anvil.
 
I have Arsenal AK's in 7.62x39 and 5.45x39. Been very pleased with them and most people that know more about them than I do seem to think Arsenals are top of the line these days.
 
I'd like to know why someone advised you to stay away from Chinese manufactured items. Did said individual have any personal experience?

I recently picked up a Chinese SKS (1967, Arsenal 26), and it's a fine piece of work. The previous owner (who had it for about 15 years) took great care of it.

It's a great rifle to shoot!

I was also thinking, like you, about adding an AK. I probably will later this spring, but I came across this great deal on the SKS, and couldn't pass it up.
 
Oh, also - the piston compensated systems of the SKS (and AK) are making me think I need to start saving towards a SCAR at some point.

Sure, the SKS is much heavier than your average AR (unless you have 34 attachments hanging from the thing - not that there's anything wrong with that!), but the piston compensated system really kills the recoil, and helps with reliability, in my experience (cleaner operation, in general).
 
As has been said, I disagree strongly with whoever steered you away from the Chinese models. Polytech Legend AKs for example fetch a premium for good reason, and they make fine SKSs.

I deal in a lot of "commie" weapons including a lot of SKSs and AKs. In SKSs the Norincos are good, accurate weapons. The Russians are the most desirable but the Norincos are still great shooters. In AKs the Arsenal Bulgarian or Saiga are usually the highest regarded along with the Polytech Legends. The Yugos are the only ones with a significant inherit design difference in the SKS, they have turn off valve for the gas tube so you can launch rockets from the barrel of the gun. lol.

In AKs its more about milled versus stamped receiver than a country in particular, so the Chinese Polytech legends fetch a premium as do the milled Arsenals from Bulgaria, whereas stamped from either country will of course fetch much less.

These guns were designed from the ground up to work with great reliability with stamped parts and loose manufacturing tolerances. They can be pretty cheaply made and still work great. Some are better than others perhaps, but in general they are all pretty tough guns.

I have a slight preference for the SKS myself, it's generally considered a tad more accurate but a tradeoff with weight. To me it's a good SHTF weapon b/c it's accurate enough to be a hunting gun in a pinch but still has "assault rifle" firepower. As a compromise you can look at the SKS "paratrooper". It's a 16" barrel SKS by Norinco that was never issued to paratrooper troops but was made for export with the just legal barrel. You get a little bit less weight and length, maybe a hair better accuracy than the AK even with the 4" less barrel. Some feel that way at least, they go for a premium over full length. You can also get the Norincos that take Ak mags, a few different options out there.

The SKS does have a free floating firing pin which can lead to slam fires if it gets jammed. It's pretty unlikely but it is good to keep it clean and they sell aftermarket spring loaded pins as noted above if it worries you. Personally it doesn't worry me, I've shot them and don't change the pins, but I do make sure it's clean and moving fine when I put it up.

I don't want to sound "salesy" but if you're interested I have a number of SKS/AKs in stock at any point in time if you're looking for something in particular. I guess I have an affinity for them, I really respect how they designed guns to be functional and reliable knowing they had a pretty primitive manufacturing base to build them. Takes a lot of ingenuity to come up with something so simple that can be made and maintained so easily.
 
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Nothing wrong with the Chinese SKS. The finish on mine is pretty nice. My Russian refurb is a bit "slicker" but the Chinese is prettier & works just as well.
 

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