Altering a Pistol from Factory for CCW

[ogso]

This may be more specific for me being from Cali but the Shield we can get has a magazine disconnect. HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT. Bought replacement parts for remove the disconnect BUT was hesitant only because its my carry gun. My old primary was a G43 which had changed lots of items but I would like to change the Shield to suit me better. Any thoughts and/or legal ramifications. Thanks in advance.

 

[Saudade]

You need to check with your IA (likely the county sheriff’s office) to see what mods they allow (or disallow).

 

[murphydog]

You'll need to research state laws (if any), and perhaps get legal advice. Yours would be one of the states in which I would hate to be the test case in court if you used a "modified" gun, even in a legitimate defense situation.

 

[M29since14]

I know nothing about CA law, but in any case, I would not modify your Shield. Even if removing it is not prohibited, have you considered there is always the chance it just might save your life? My own admittedly unsolicited opinion is that magazine disconnects can just as easily be a positive as a negative in a defensive pistol. I think I would just go back to your Glock if you can’t abide the mag safety.

 

[markmiela]

Prison isn’t a nice place. If the disconnect is law I would leave it on place.


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[OKFC05]

I have taught both NRA and State-sponsored pistol classes in several states (NOT CA), and there is a standard answer for anyone who asks this type of question:
First, you must read and understand the laws on handguns in YOUR state. (If you were taking a class in my state, I would help you find the appropriate section of the law, if any.) I would not interpret or paraphrase the law for you, as I have no authority, and presumably your law is in English. If you do not understand your law after you read it, you can hire a lawyer of your choice to advise you. In the event you are taken before a judge, "but some guy said" carries zero weight..... Even "some guy on the internet!"

 

[STORMINORMAN]

That which is required in order for a product to be sold is not necessarily required to be in place. Moving would probably be as simple as getting an answer to a simple question...?

Have not heard of any laws (regulations, rules, etc.) prohibiting "modifications" (other than possibly a conversion to "fully automatic"!), but if there was anywhere where it would be likely it would certainly be in the People's Socialist Republic of...

 

[Cal44]

I live in CA and the county sheriff prohibits mods except changing grips or sights.

A sensible policy IMO.

 

[N4KVE]

Considering how a few days ago two yoots in California were released on their OR even though they were caught with 150,000 fentanyl pills, I wouldn’t worry about it. It seems to stay locked up in California, you have to commit a really serious crime. GARY.

 

[rosewood]

Considering how a few days ago two yoots in California were released on their OR even though they were caught with 150,000 fentanyl pills, I wouldn’t worry about it. It seems to stay locked up in California, you have to commit a really serious crime. GARY.

You don't understand, exercising constitutional rights are a serious crime there.

 

[rosewood]

I live in CA and the county sheriff prohibits mods except changing grips or sights.

A sensible policy IMO.

Crazy that a sheriff gets to make the law. I don't see that provision in the Constitution.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

I live in CA and the county sheriff prohibits mods except changing grips or sights.

A sensible policy IMO.

I would ignore him, and all his ilk! Who designated him as Dictator?

 

[dla]

Sitting in Idaho, I laugh.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

I live in CA and the county sheriff prohibits mods except changing grips or sights.

A sensible policy IMO.

That's the most idiotic policy I've ever heard of. Do you work for the sheriff? If not, it's none of his business what you do with your personal property.

But, it's Kalifornia. You deserve each other.

 

[Oldsalt66]

I live in CA and the county sheriff prohibits mods except changing grips or sights.

A sensible policy IMO.

How is that a sensible policy ?

Seriously, I’d like to be enlightened, because on its face, that needlessly restrictive policy appears to be nothing other than a baseless and absurd infringement.

 

[WR Moore]

I expect the Sheriff in post #8 was advised by the County Attorney/Liability Carrier that authorizing other modifications created a liability issue if he authorized a firearm that did not meet manufacturers specifications.

I can understand some of the opinions about what's your personal property. However, from the tone of some, they've never worked for an entity whose policy was "You will carry what we issue as we issue it-approved grip/stocks changes excepted." Now you might not be able to shoot the eyelashes off a gnat at 25 yards with a stock gun, but it's certainly suitable for self defense after a suitable break in period.

FWIW, I lugged around magazine disconnector/safety equipped service sidearms for over 20 years. Never really understood the fuss about them. Yes, I've heard all the mythical reasons to delete them.

 

[haywood]

I wouldn’t take a chance in commifornia. From what we hear in the free world anything goes there unless it has to do with firearms.

 

[Himhawkeye]

Sitting in Florida, I not only laugh but greatly appreciate that many years ago I moved South rather than West.

 

[trooper2899]

Always know that if per chance you find yourself sitting in civil court being sued for a million or two in a use of deadly force case, slime ball attorneys will cross examine U about any alterations you made or had made, ie, sights, grips, type of ammo, ad infinitum with the intention of making you into Lee Harvey Oswald before a jury.

 

[waffles]

I'd consult an attorney that has some knowledge in that area. I generally scoff at the people who poo poo the idea of modifying a pistol as potential prosecution fodder, and I don't know, any Cali provision making it illegal, but man if I was in that position I'd drop the couple hundred on some actual legal advice, or just leave it alone.