Ivan the Butcher
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Today (October 8) in 1918 Alvin York of the 82 Infantry Division, captured 132 German POW's. He was awarded the Army Medal of Honor.
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Targets Guy
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Congressional Medal of Honor.
What a life story. "Sgt. York" is one of my favorite movies.
THE PILGRIM
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American Hero, Great Movie!
As I have posted, on 7 Dec 41 my FIL and one of his Bros were watching a movie in Mobile, AL. Both were already in Service.
The movie stopped, the Manager made the Pearl Harbor Announcement.
Yes the movie was Sgt. York!
Lots of super good lines.
I like this one.
YARN | I ain'''t much good at this here practicing, Sergeant. | Sergeant York | Video clips by quotes | 1b3e1b88 | 紗
As I have posted, on 7 Dec 41 my FIL and one of his Bros were watching a movie in Mobile, AL. Both were already in Service.
The movie stopped, the Manager made the Pearl Harbor Announcement.
Yes the movie was Sgt. York!
Lots of super good lines.
I like this one.
YARN | I ain'''t much good at this here practicing, Sergeant. | Sergeant York | Video clips by quotes | 1b3e1b88 | 紗
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What's sad is, if you type Alvin into Google, the auto fill selections are an NFL running back and a fictional chipmunk. You have to type the "Y" to get to York.
So true. Our hero's from all wars are giving short shrift now. Even tearing their statues down. I wish they would teach American History again.
Alk8944
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Ivan the Butcher is correct! The Award is The MEDAL OF HONOR, commonly abbreviated to MOH, Awarded by Congress. There are three versions of the actual Medal, Army, Navy and Air Force, which are presenter according to the branch the recipient was in. So he was completely correct in saying the Army MOH.
If you are going to correct someone, no matter what the subject, you had better be right!
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You need to teach it to someone that cares
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Ivan the Butcher
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Danial Day is one of a very few Medal of Honor's "Twice recipients". Sargent Day's first is from the Army. Even though he was a Marine he was on an Army commanded mission. (I believe in the Dominican Republic) His second was from the Navy, from WW I.
All other two-time recipients are from the Army. All three MOH's are authorized by Congress.
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Ray
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I saw a special with an archeological team digging up York`s .45 spent shells in the exact place where his .45 pistol shooting incident happened in France, and they did find quite a number of them.In the movie, if I recall, his exploits were with a rifle. I don´t know if the rifle and the .45 pistol events were at the same time frame. I guess that this documentary is on YT.
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Men like Alvin York and Audie Murphy are very few and very far between!
I do not believe this is correct. The MOH is awarded by POTUS and no one else.
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About the only good thing to come out of such discussions is that all the "expert" opinions prompt me to look things up for myself...
NFrameFred
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To paraphrase . . .
"The trouble . . . is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan.
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If ya gets a chance, drop by his old home place and get the skinny on York.
Sgt. Alvin C. York State Historic Park - Wikipedia
Well worth the visit.
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Sgt. Alvin C. York State Historic Park - Wikipedia
Well worth the visit.
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Ivan the Butcher
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A few years ago I learned that there is a law against being awarded a third MOH, or Danial Day would have 3 or possibly 4! He also has an Army Distinguished Service Cross and a Navy Cross. (both are their services' second highest award)
The current version of the MOH is the 4th. The first awarding is in Bronze and the second is in Gold. If you see them in the movies, they look goofy! That is because Hollywood doesn't own a real one. Which is apparently, it is illegal to own. When I was 13 or 14 (ca. 1970) I saw one for sale for $400. I couldn't afford it anyway, but the green wreath enamel was all messed up and the ribbon wasn't strung properly. It must have been a forgery or a second that should have been destroyed.
I have a friend that is a retired Marine/Navy officer. We were talking about Sargent Day. He was saying Historically, Day was such a bad, drunk Marine, that it is unbelievable that he wasn't thrown out of the Corp! I replied that until WWI almost all career enlisted men were from orphanages, and had no other family than the Corp. The one thing they could count on Day for, When it came time for combat, Danial Day always brought his "A Game!"
Alvin York was a, what we call today: Born Again Christian. He tried to be a "Conscientious Objector", but at that time his denomination (Church of Christ) wasn't recognized by the government for their beliefs and was drafted anyway. We have all seen the movie and know about his shooting abilities. However for WWII the Army made him an officer and used him as a walking recruiting poster. He found out hundreds of good old boys from the hills were being declared 4F because they couldn't read! He campaigned for a training program to teach these men to read and induct them in the Army. By this several Battalions of expert marksmen became soldiers, and after the war these men received VA benefits and the better life that provided for them. I have a B-I-L that both of his grandfather's knew Alvin York and shot at meets with him regularly in the 1950's (Alvin hated getting beat! But it happened once and awhile.)
At one time in the 70's or 80's there were 15 MOH recipients living in Ohio, a local PBS station hade interviews with them all. What these men did, is truly "Above and Beyond!" Both during their service and after.
Ivan
The current version of the MOH is the 4th. The first awarding is in Bronze and the second is in Gold. If you see them in the movies, they look goofy! That is because Hollywood doesn't own a real one. Which is apparently, it is illegal to own. When I was 13 or 14 (ca. 1970) I saw one for sale for $400. I couldn't afford it anyway, but the green wreath enamel was all messed up and the ribbon wasn't strung properly. It must have been a forgery or a second that should have been destroyed.
I have a friend that is a retired Marine/Navy officer. We were talking about Sargent Day. He was saying Historically, Day was such a bad, drunk Marine, that it is unbelievable that he wasn't thrown out of the Corp! I replied that until WWI almost all career enlisted men were from orphanages, and had no other family than the Corp. The one thing they could count on Day for, When it came time for combat, Danial Day always brought his "A Game!"
Alvin York was a, what we call today: Born Again Christian. He tried to be a "Conscientious Objector", but at that time his denomination (Church of Christ) wasn't recognized by the government for their beliefs and was drafted anyway. We have all seen the movie and know about his shooting abilities. However for WWII the Army made him an officer and used him as a walking recruiting poster. He found out hundreds of good old boys from the hills were being declared 4F because they couldn't read! He campaigned for a training program to teach these men to read and induct them in the Army. By this several Battalions of expert marksmen became soldiers, and after the war these men received VA benefits and the better life that provided for them. I have a B-I-L that both of his grandfather's knew Alvin York and shot at meets with him regularly in the 1950's (Alvin hated getting beat! But it happened once and awhile.)
At one time in the 70's or 80's there were 15 MOH recipients living in Ohio, a local PBS station hade interviews with them all. What these men did, is truly "Above and Beyond!" Both during their service and after.
Ivan
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Major General Smedley Butler, once known as the most decorated US Marine, was awarded two Medals Of Honor. Apparently he would have won a third but in 1921 officers were not eligible to be awarded the Medal of Honor so he received a brevet. medal
