Under present political situation, no sane person would invest in building a ammo plant. In fact the industry won't want to risk expansion costs at existing facilities. When and if things do stabilize they will keep up with the market. Hoarding and speculators along with new gun owners have caused the shortage. Also they told us computers would gives us many more choices. This is a lie. The computer controls production on everything. If sales fall below a certain number the item is dropped from production. The companies who can sell 100% of their production, with minimum workers and at panic inflated prices are not worried. Everything is for Today with no thought for tomorrow.
AMMO SHORTAGE - REALLY? Noooooooooooo (DUH!)
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The panic started about 10-12 months ago, plenty of time to deplete warehouse/store stocks. Doesn't take too long when buying jumps 500%.
BTW; aluminum foil, the heavy duty type is still available for hats...
I have found the same thing every time i search for components...in stock in Canada, no stock in the US. Canadian companies won't ship to the US and you can't drive across the border to make a purchase....
Moe Mentum
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If you owned a auto repair shop, and opened one morning and found 25 customers waiting for you, would you go out and open another garage ?
fredj338
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You fail to understand economics. Ammo manuf have contracts to fill all over the world. They are going to fill them to the extent possoble.
The entire population of Canada is about what the gun owners are in Kalif, Tx & Fl. Do the math.
If every gun owner in the US kept a reasonable supply of ammo, they wouldnt all be rushing out to buy at once Walmart spoiled many casual shooters & they sold about 50% of all ammo in the US. Now pretty much gone.
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You can help by shooting single shots and not just ammo dumps. I get disgusted when I go to our range in the sticks and see 25 rounds or more of 223/5.56 spent brass laying 10 yards from the target. Spray and pray practice is not helping shortages.
I REALLY like this post!!!!!!!!!!!
It wasn't many years ago that people were posting on this forum on how they blew thru a brick of 22 rimfire over the weekend or more.
40_CALIBER
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The pendulum will swing again and I will buy again actually I will buy more. Than this time. I literally had a guy offer me an opportunity for a handgun. to get cash and 9mm ammo
I wish I had more rounds of ammo and I would be outfitting my collection on trades alone
I wish I had more rounds of ammo and I would be outfitting my collection on trades alone
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Ackley1952
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If that upsets you, you might consider not going to the range for a while. I don't think the other shooters want to pick out what gun you use or how you use it. Just an idea about freedom.
max503
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I hope it is us, the gun owners, who are causing this shortage, and not some...other causes.
Jon651
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Oh, no! Not those dang space aliens again!
I dun run out of tinfoil for a new hat. Gonna have to use the aluminum siding off the single-wide this time!
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Only 25 rounds? Kind of pathetic.
I hope you don't show up when I'm at the range. I put 225 rounds of .38 Special and 170 rounds of 9mm down range last week. I plan on going back on Tuesday if the temperatures get into the mid 40's. I stocked up for situations like this.
Go build an ammo plant. I hear it's pretty easy to get one up and running....
max503
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Seems like I remember that the former administration and the EPA closed down the last lead foundry in the U.S back in 2013.
I can only imagine where our present supply of lead comes from.
I wonder who we could ask about that.
When manufacturing moved overseas they took a lot of the pollution with them. When I was a kid in the 60's there were greazy little factories everywhere. Now they're gone, along with the slag heaps and oil slicks.
My lead comes from...I'm not gonna say.
When manufacturing moved overseas they took a lot of the pollution with them. When I was a kid in the 60's there were greazy little factories everywhere. Now they're gone, along with the slag heaps and oil slicks.
My lead comes from...I'm not gonna say.
Yeah, greasy little factories everywhere. That was terrible. The new laws and regs have made it possible for thousands of men to stay home. Never having to work in greasy little factories, dark damp mines or hot dirty mills again. Most metals now are made in mini mills, slang for reduction of reclaimed metal. Copper and lead are over 80% recycled.I just watched promo video made by CEO of Federal. He did mention that raw materials were getting hard to come by. I don't know if he ment now because of CV-19 or in general.
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mmb617
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You get disgusted? I think it's early Christmas as I scarf up that brass for some future day when primers will be available again.
smoothshooter
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It's not that easy to find quality people to hire off the street that have the attention to detail required for that kind of work.
It takes months of training time, and the mistakes newbies inevitably make are almost always expensive to deal with.
Then, about the time the new hires that have not been fired or quit become fairly productive, it is time to lay them off when backlogs are no longer an issue.
It takes months of training time, and the mistakes newbies inevitably make are almost always expensive to deal with.
Then, about the time the new hires that have not been fired or quit become fairly productive, it is time to lay them off when backlogs are no longer an issue.
smoothshooter
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So you think you could have a primer plant or ammo plant up and running in a few months to a year? Just the environmental impact studies and state and federal permitting processes would take years.
In a couple of years or so gun and ammo companies are going to lose their legal protections from frivolous lawsuits. This means various State Attorneys General and crime victim's lawyers will being filing ruinous lawsuits against these companies.
How much money are YOU willing to invest in the ammunition manufacturing business?
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Yep, us and not the FBI, Homeland, ICE, etc. getting all the ammo, because the government trying to disarm the citizenry via the back door...
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