Oh OK, THIS time I see the "sarcasm" in the above statement (not the former one)! Wow! Got it!
NEXT time why don't you try using the sarcasm emoji:
"GET OVER IT ALREADY"...
AMMO SHORTAGE - REALLY? Noooooooooooo (DUH!)
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HorizontalMike
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Quote: Originally Posted by HorizontalMike View Post
Oh OK, THIS time I see the "sarcasm" in the above statement (not the former one)! Wow! Got it!
NEXT time why don't you try using the sarcasm emoji:
mikld Quote: "GET OVER IT ALREADY"...
WOW! You still missed the sarcasm emoji
Hey Hang in there! Keep trying!
I missed nothing, especially the "mandatory" little faces. But I'll give you the last word, seems like it is needed... 
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HorizontalMike
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mikld,
When I stated GET OVER IT, I was not being sarcastic. I find your post#40 to be exceptionally arrogant and politically derogatory. I was hoping you would eventually realize that and cease, but you proved me wrong on that.
__steve__
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Reality: if you shoot you create a shorthand directly proportional to it.
Fishslayer
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There's an ammo shortage? Hadn't noticed...
My problem is getting range time with the beer virus restrictions...
My problem is getting range time with the beer virus restrictions...
HorizontalMike
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There's an ammo shortage? Hadn't noticed...
My problem is getting range time with the beer virus restrictions...
Well,... from Southern Tejas we just switched over to Lone Star.
GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS
Don't forget that All government agencies have ammo contracts with FEDERAL/SPEER /CCI /REMINGTON. Military has ammo contracts ,THEY will be served FIRST. We just get to buy what's left. Public loves 9mm , 5.56 and .308 because they are Military calibers but that puts you in direct competition with military for those rounds. They win that contest. Focus on non Military calibers and you might have better selection and inventory.
Don't forget that All government agencies have ammo contracts with FEDERAL/SPEER /CCI /REMINGTON. Military has ammo contracts ,THEY will be served FIRST. We just get to buy what's left. Public loves 9mm , 5.56 and .308 because they are Military calibers but that puts you in direct competition with military for those rounds. They win that contest. Focus on non Military calibers and you might have better selection and inventory.
fredj338
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Silly statement. It is their money, their ammo, they get to shoot it the way they want. Like telling other people to not drive their 4x4 to save gas for your Prius.
why can't we drive across the border and buy and come home.
what's the difference if I were buying clothes, shoes, tire for my truck or whatever ?
So far as I know, Right now the border is closed, without a valid reason, you can't just drive across. And seems i read something about needing a PAL license to buy components in Canada.
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Not a silly statement. Just a partial explanation of why some people are short on ammo. And it's not like telling other people not to drive a 4x4 to save gas for his Prius. It's like telling other people not to leave a moving van idling for an hour and then moan about not having enough gas. He already has enough gas for his Prius.
My outlook is a little different, and only applies to people who have been shooting for a while. We have been through this a few times. Time to wise up already and stock some.
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HorizontalMike
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You are a funny person. You don't want anyone else to enjoy what they have, just because you may not have the same, nor planned ahead sufficiently to have what others have and are enjoying.
Remember that this ammo shortage is self-created by "...people who have been shooting for a while..." and not from some conspiracy theory to take away our gunzz...
My advice is to go shoot what you have and quit worrying about how often/much others shoot.
Some stores are getting Ammo, but it is selling out as quick as it hits the shelves. The local Academy gets shipments in 3 days a week. They put everything they have on a rolling cart and roll it out to the middle of the floor on those delivery days. There are folks waiting at the door that go and buy their 3 limit max with their friends and family getting theirs. The ammo is gone in short order. If you are lucky enough to get there in time, you can get your 3 box limit for pre-panic prices. Many of those early birds are flipping the ammo on gunbroker etc. This is driving prices up also.
We are in a perfect storm right now. Questions about police authority, covid, election issues etc, hasn't allowed the manufactures to catch up.
If you remember a few years ago when the AR panic hit $600 guns were going for $2k+. Lots of new startup companies making ARs and this time last year you could get them for $400 or even less because the market became saturated with the new companies. Starting up a machine company building guns can be done in your garage. Starting up an ammo plant is a lot more red tape and cost. It would be nice if a new company could be started up in short order to catch up the demand and bring down the prices for us consumers, but I think we are just going to have to wait the storm out and hope the political environment coming doesn't make things worse.
Rosewood
We are in a perfect storm right now. Questions about police authority, covid, election issues etc, hasn't allowed the manufactures to catch up.
If you remember a few years ago when the AR panic hit $600 guns were going for $2k+. Lots of new startup companies making ARs and this time last year you could get them for $400 or even less because the market became saturated with the new companies. Starting up a machine company building guns can be done in your garage. Starting up an ammo plant is a lot more red tape and cost. It would be nice if a new company could be started up in short order to catch up the demand and bring down the prices for us consumers, but I think we are just going to have to wait the storm out and hope the political environment coming doesn't make things worse.
Rosewood
mmb617
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I was at the LGS yesterday and noticed they had more ammo on the shelves than they've had recently. I didn't really check into what it was or what the price as I don't buy factory ammo. I was there buying powder.
I'm on good terms with the owner as I shop there frequently and as I was checking out he told me to come in Thursday as he's expecting to get some primers. You can bet I'll be there and if he does get them I'll buy whatever the limit is. Last time he had some the limit was 500.
I'm on good terms with the owner as I shop there frequently and as I was checking out he told me to come in Thursday as he's expecting to get some primers. You can bet I'll be there and if he does get them I'll buy whatever the limit is. Last time he had some the limit was 500.
You may have me mixed up with some other poster. I have no problem with others' enjoying whatever they have, and I am certainly not motivated by some shortage of my own, because I have plenty of ammo of my own, of every caliber and cartridge that I use.You are a funny person. You don't want anyone else to enjoy what they have, just because you may not have the same, nor planned ahead sufficiently to have what others have and are enjoying.
Remember that this ammo shortage is self-created by "...people who have been shooting for a while..." and not from some conspiracy theory to take away our gunzz...
My advice is to go shoot what you have and quit worrying about how often/much others shoot.
I do not believe that the present shortage was created by a conspiracy, or by people who have been shooting for a while, but it really doesn't matter to me, since I don't have a shortage, anyway.
I did defend mtgianni's right to comment on the use of ammo by some of those who are pissing and moaning about a shortage when they are pretty wasteful (in his and my opinion) of what they do have.
Capisce?
fredj338
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Well target shooting beyond 20y with a pistol isnt training either.
To each their own. Its their time & money. If they want to blast 100rds of 223 at 20y, have at it.
fredj338
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Jmo, I dont think the guys blowing 25rds of 223 at 20y are complaining about ammo shortages. No its the part time shooter that was used to dropping by Wally for a box of ammo 3-4x a year. Serious shooters stock pile ammo or components so we aren't short during these ever increasing shortages.
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fredj338
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So you get to decide on what is useful or wasteful use of ammo??? Pretty bold for someone thst doesnt care???
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