Anti Gun Legislation in the New Congress

DonD

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Well, with the significant majority the Republicans will have in the House, the big gains in the Senate combined with pro gun Democrats, I cannot conceive of any anti gun legislation getting ANYWHERE at all for at least the next two years.

Doesn't stop idiots from trying things in state legislatures but the Dems lost a lot of those as well.

Positive news for shooters indeed. Don
 
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As a matter of fact we should be pressing FORWARD with our agenda, not trying to just hold the ground. ADELANTE! ADELANTE!! ADELANTE!!!
 
I agree that there probably won't be too many runs at gun owners. Even in the last Congress, I don't recall anything that affected my 2nd Amendment rights.

The only significant change I noticed was the ability to carry in National Parks. (It now appears, up here in the NW corner, we now have to be concerned with damn billy goats!)
 
As long as our beloved Dear Leader, doesn't try to get something through by exectutive order. That is one way to get around congress, that and by agency regulation. He didn't get cap and trade, so he is getting the same thing by EPA making new regulations for industry, trucks and autos regarding gases, emessions and dust.
 
Don't forget the UN and treaties. A treaty on small arms ratified by a Dem controlled Senate could hurt us. Hillary is thinking about 2012 so while I'm sure she would screw us, I don't think she will in the next two years.

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You're just a touch premature. They've got enough time to P on the cheerios before then.
 
I don't see much chance of anything making it through the front door (at the legislative level), but there are plenty of back doors available.

Note the recent EPA push to ban lead in small arms ammunition.

Remember the efforts of the Consumer Products Safety Commission to regulate firearm and ammunition sales.

Keep in mind the huge increase in Special Occupational Tax (license fees) for FFL holders just a few years ago.

Can you forget the proposals for safe storage of firearms (disassembled, locked up, ammunition stored separately under lock and key)?

Look at all the proposed regulations in Washington, DC (following Heller) and Chicago (following McDonald). Licensing of owners, registration of firearms, limitations on firearm types, magazine capacity, training requirements, huge license and registration fees with annual renewals at exhorbitant rates, etc, etc, etc.

Take a peek at the new regulations being adopted now in New York City. A couple of traffic tickets? Denied. Late payments on your credit card bill? Denied. The list goes on and on.

Don't overlook the UN Treaty on Small Arms. If ratified, this will not only require owner licensing, registration of all firearms, regulation of all transfers, strict restrictions on weapon and ammunition types and quantities, mandatory licensing of reloading equipment and reloading of ammunition, and a dozen other restrictive provisions.

This battle will never be over, only the methods of engagement have changed. Since the Heller and McDonald decisions the focus has shifted to "reasonable controls", with no real guidance from the Supreme Court. There will be a constant onslaught of "reasonable controls", each requiring a court battle to mitigate the effects of what the anti-gun crowd dream up as "reasonable".
 
I would very much like to see the new Congress take up the Interstate Reciprocity issue again next session. It came close last time and just might make it with the new members in the House and Senate.
 
Anything passed by Congress that is pro-2A will get vetoes by BHO and marshalling a vetoe over ride is a really tough row to hoe.
 
I would very much like to see the new Congress take up the Interstate Reciprocity issue again next session. It came close last time and just might make it with the new members in the House and Senate.

While I wish that all States would honor permits to carry concealed issued by other States, I have serious problems with Congress mandating this.....We do have a 10th Amendment...however: I wonder if anyone knows the answer to this...."Is there a Federeal Law that mandates one State honoring the Driver License issued by another State." It seems that each State does recognize the DL issue but is there actually a law mandating this or is it done on a State level, either by Exeuctive decree or State Legislative action....Knowing the answer woud certainly help us fence sitters on the issue of Congress mandating this....
 
After Hurricane Katrina and the ensuring chaos, lots more folks see the need for personal protection after a natural disaster.

The police and National Guard couldn't protect anybody.

Even Brian Williams of NBC underwrote and underlined that reality -- when he said his news crews were constantly under seige.

Katrina, if anything positive came out of her, gave gun owners the rallying cry -- as well as video clips to back it up -- of "Remember New Orleans!"

For the first time in the national consciousness, we have proof that guns save law-abiding private citizens from rampaging looters when the authorities can't.

In the public opinion wars, that leverage counts for something when confronting anti-gunners -- or neutral "non-gun" voters.
 
Anything passed by Congress that is pro-2A will get vetoes by BHO and marshalling a vetoe over ride is a really tough row to hoe.

That veto would help the pro-2A candidate in 2012, whoever that may be.
Let's push for a bill that, even if vetoed will help, and show his true stance on the 2A for all to see. He and all other anti-2A politicians have avoided all issues 2A related like the plague in order not to push such a hot topic. Unless they are "held to the fire" it is unlikely they will even try such a stunt which could foster "ill will" with the constituency- which they always forget consists of citizens.
 
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I found it interesting that in the election you hardly heard ANY candidates talk about gun issues, either pro or con. There were a few, but they were all telling us they were pro-gun. That says something. They realize the vast majority of the country doesn't want more restrictive gun laws. I think the next two years will not see any significant issues in this regard either way. I too would like to see the reciprocity issue again re-visited, even though it would just be vetoed. It would be a good campaign issue in 2012. We'll see.
BTW, I'm in Iowa, the 2012 campaign has already started. My local newspaper had an article a couple days ago about the candidates starting to visit in anticipation of the Iowa Caucuses.:eek:
 
BEWARE THE LAME DUCK SESSION

The OLD Congress will be back for a few weeks, mid-Nov to mid-Dec. They still have to pass all 12 appropriations acts plus any part of the Obama agenda they think they can sneak through. We now have 62 Democrats in the House with nothing to lose, as well as six in the Senate.

As for the 112th Congress, the Republicans will only control 1/3 of the process. Pushing OUR agenda will still be hard.

The battle is only half over, at best. On to 2012!
 
Now all we have to do is to get that Kenyan out of office; hopefully replaced by somebody who loves what the Founding Fathers were trying to safeguard.
 
While I wish that all States would honor permits to carry concealed issued by other States, I have serious problems with Congress mandating this.....We do have a 10th Amendment...however: I wonder if anyone knows the answer to this...."Is there a Federeal Law that mandates one State honoring the Driver License issued by another State." It seems that each State does recognize the DL issue but is there actually a law mandating this or is it done on a State level, either by Exeuctive decree or State Legislative action....Knowing the answer woud certainly help us fence sitters on the issue of Congress mandating this....

While I fully understand where you are coming from, I prefer to think of it not as Congress mandating something, but rather merely using federal legislation to keep certain States from ignoring the "full faith and credit" clause of the Constitution. In a perfect world, the Constitution itself would suffice, but with certain states and some judicial decisions rejecting the Constitutional mandate of "full faith and credit" in regards to CCW permits/licenses, I feel federal action is appropriate.

DL's, I believe, are considered public records/documents that are granted "full faith and credit" and hence every state recognizes all other state DL's.


A federal law allowing interstate reciprocity is little more than an acknowledgement of existing (yet infringed) rights: an acknowledgement and protection of both the 2nd Amendment and Article IV, Section I of the US Constitution.

Article IV, Section I reads in part: "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State..."
 
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IIRC it takes a 2/3 majority in the Senate to ratify a treaty. I wouldn't worry about the UN too much. Regulation through govt regulation rather than legislation seems the more likely route but the President is no doubt aware this could lead to more losses in 2012.
 
I was told to beware of the Presidents pick for Directer of ATF,but I dont remember his name. He presently is in charge of the office in Chicago
 
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