Any Adventure Motorcycle Owners?

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Looking for some advice. At age 61.96, I'm contemplating buying my first motorcycle. Initially I was considering something like an Indian Scout (maybe a Bobber or Rogue). But it really makes more sense for me to go in another direction.

With kids leaving the nest and my job being something I can do remotely much of the time, I'm planning to spend a good chunk of time exploring and fishing rivers by kayak or raft, solo. The quandry, of course, is how to get back from the take out to the truck at the put in spot.

I figured the solution was to get a small, light motorcycle that I could put on a hitch-mounted rack on my pickup and drop at the takeout. At the end of the float I'd secure the vessel, ride the bike back to the truck, load the bike and drive back downstream to retrieve the boat. So I decided to look for a "shuttle" bike that I could also tool around on when camping.

I wanted something that I could use on forest roads that was also street legal and not too expensive. Toyed with the idea of a Honda Trail 125, a Monkey or a Yamaha XT 250. But then I stumbled on the RE Himalayan and figured, "This is it." I could throw panniers on it and use it for short-haul camping trips, independent of the shuttle mission.

Now, I'm not looking to do a lot of freeway cruising. But the reality of the mountain West is that there are places you can only get to on the interstate, often with some hefty grades. This is where the Himalayan comes up short. The low power to weight ratio, and the limited top speed all make me nervous about sharing the freeway with four and eighteen wheelers pushing 80.

After much research, I'm giving serious consideration to the KTM 390 Adventure. Not too big or heavy, and power and speed much better than the Himalayan. I'll admit that "mission creep" has me thinking about longer trips and more bike, something like the 890 Adventure (the base, not the R), but I can't really justify the added expense. Any thoughts from my wise forum brethren? I'd be looking at 2023 models, if that makes a difference.
 
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I'm 72 and been riding on and off for 45 years. In Phoenix, for the winter, I ride a Ducati and explore on pavement. In the summer I live in Colorado at 11,000 ft in the wilderness and ride a 2021 Suzuki DRZ 400 S. I rarely get on paved rodes but it will cruise at 70 if needed.

The Phoenix highway traffic moves at over 80mph and there is no way I'd ride my Suzuki down here. It stays in Colorado. The Ducati can cruise along at 100 mph no problem. On my Ducati rides I find many nice dirt trails and wish I had the DRZ to go on them. But in Phoenix it takes an hour to get to the trails on the highway.

I bought the DRZ because it's bullet proof, in production for 21 years and weighs 300 lbs. Maintenace intervals are far apart and parts are cheap.
The KTMs are none of the above plus more expensive.

For highway travel to dirt trails I'd probably look at a Suzuki or Kawasaki 650. Maybe a Honda 600 as well. Not ideal but a decent compromise. My 2 cents.
 
Well, if this is your "first" motorcycle have you ridden before and know what you're getting into? I imagine the answer would be yes to that question.

"Adventure" motorcycles are really starting to hit their stride the last several years. It's an upright riding position and they tend to be a little lighter. However, this comes at the cost of being tall in the saddle. Meaning, wind will be more of a problem, especially around 18 wheelers doing 80 mph. Basically you are sitting much higher up than other bikes. As far as the "adventure" part it really depends on the riders skill whether it will be an adventure or not. Some of the bikes in this category are marketed as such but aren't very dirt worthy. Not much ground clearance, no bash plate, soft suspension, etc...

The 390 you're looking at might be very challenging at highway speeds approaching 80. However, if you intend it to be just for "tooling around" it'd probably be perfect. I know many people like the KLR 650 for multiple use, on and off road. Honda is coming out with a 750 version of the Transalp. Yamaha has the 700 Tenere and Suzuki has a new 800 version the VStrom, along with the 650. These are middle weight bikes. You said you've done your research so I'm guessing you've looked at other bikes already.

I, myself, have a 650 Vstrom, 2009. Bought new in Spring of 2010 and I outfitted it myself with aftermarket panniers and top box plus various odds and ends for trips. It's made many overnight/weekly trips and I've never had an issue with it. However, it's not perfect. It does perfectly fine on the interstate but is not fun in high winds. There isn't a ton of ground clearance either but it suits me fine, for my style of riding.

I would say get into the saddle of every bike you can find that you might think about buying. I know that when I sat on the Strom I knew this was the bike I wanted. It just felt right, kind of like grips!

Best of luck on your hunting, have fun with it!
 
Thanks, Buzzzer. I've ridden a bit in my youth, so it's not the "old bald guy who buys a bike never having ridden one" situation. As far as the interstates go, my plan is to avoid them except when absolutely necessary. I expect my off pavement excursions to be of the mild variety, with most of my riding to be on pavement, hence the choice of adventure bike as opposed to more dirt-worthy dual sport. I'm not in a hurry to buy, so I'll take to heart your suggestion to do a lot of looking.
 
Have been riding for going on 60 years...mostly street. In 2013 I visited Mackay Sagebrush in Idaho...he had a KLR650...I said I'll be back next year with one of them...and I did. Found a barely used 2011 and put close to 4k miles on that trip....so I was 62 when I bought my first "Adventure Bike". As my Harley got taken out from under me in 2019 it is now my only and probably last bike. If I decide that this is just too big anymore then I would go with the CT125. I had CT110 back in the 1980s and it was a great bike...

As to your described uses/needs, smaller is better...most anything you like in the 300-500cc range that will put you at highway speeds for at least short trips will get it done.

Once you get over 500cc things start getting heavy....dumping a KLR in the woods at 70 is not something I care to do very often... But since 95% of my riding is on paved or dirt roads it is perfect for me.

Have a great, and safe, time...

Bob
 
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As to your described uses/needs, smaller is better...most anything you like in the 300-500cc range that will put you at highway speeds for at least short trips will get it done.

Once you get over 500cc things start getting heavy....dumping a KLR in the woods at 70 is not something I care to do very often... But since 95% of my riding is on paved or dirt roads it is perfect for me.

Good advice. I have a Suzuki DR650 that is also ridden 90-95% on paved or dirt/fire roads. The last few times I've ridden any more aggressive trails or single track, I've gotten into situations that were above my 70-year-old skill level.
 
I started riding when I was 15 and then throughout college and then there was a lull until I was 49. From 49 to 68 I rode well over 100,000 miles locally and all over the Country (took 5 cross country trips). I rode every week except when there was snow on the ground. When I was 68 I decided that I had a fantastic time riding, never went down, never had any accidents and that was a great time to hang up my helmet and end my riding career on a high note. I sold my last Harley Ultra just over a year ago - right before moving.

As much as I enjoyed the heck out of riding and working on my own MC, I can truly say I don't miss it all that much - I had my good times riding. I make it a point NOT to ever get on a motorcycle at the risk of re-sparking an old desire. My next door neighbor has offered a few times to let me ride with him on one of his 3 bikes - I have respectfully declined. As Clint Eastwood said, " A man has to know his limitations" and I don't want to push my luck.

BTW I was one of the very few in my riding group of 20 or so guys and gals that never went down on a MC - I want to keep it that way. To all who still ride, be careful and be aware of your limitations as you age.
 
I have a 2022 Beta XTrainer. 300cc of liquid-cooled two-stroke goodness. They come with oil-injection (no mixing gas/oil), electric start, and lights. I registered mine for road use and got a license plate for it but I really can't imagine going too far on pavement with the knobby tires.
 
I recently sold my bike after 40+ years of riding because the drivers are so bad here. Every time I went for a ride someone tried to kill me. It's the first time I've been without at least one bike since 1996. I may buy another after we find a retirement location.

Although I can't say I'm up on today's market, I had similar thoughts a few years ago. I was looking for something light, highway capable, but still had some dirt road chops. I wanted to put it on a hitch carrier behind a truck camper. I settled on a Kawi Versys-X 300. Under 400lbs (still heavy for dirt), and a parallel twin for better highway performance. I never did buy it though...

For dirt roading, the smaller 250 dual sports are the ticket, but they just give up too much highway performance, especially in the mountains. The big ADV bikes are so heavy, a mishap in the dirt will be major. I had a VStrom 1000 that I rode coast to coast and border to border and it was fantastic, but I didn't take it in the dirt. And I was a LOT younger then!

Another option would be to take a light street bike and add some dirt capable tires to make a modern 'scrambler'. Wouldn't have the suspension compliance of a true off-roader, but could make it down many dirt roads.
 
The adventure bikes are fantastic, but usually larger and a bit heavier.
Consider a nice used enduro style off road bike four stroke or two stroke (verify 2T can be plated) with a 21" front/18" rear.
I like KTM, but Gas Gas, Yamaha, Kawasaki and Suzuki are fine options as well. Rekluse clutch would also be a nice perk, but see what you find used in your area.
 
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I had a nice Kawasaki Trail Boss while stationed at Mt Home AFB, ID in 1969. After almost killing myself twice and our boxer eating the seat off I decided to sell it (after replacing the seat of course).



Driving down the highway at 45mph (top speed for the 100cc bike) the engine froze but I kept going. My thighs caught the handle bars which slowed me down and I did the old parachute landing tuck and roll as we hit the grass ditch. My bike became a 101cc after they bored it out.



Riding the wonderful trails up near Anderson Ranch dam I came around a corner to face a pine tree which had fallen in the middle of the trial and I was about to become a tree ornament; no where to go to my left as it was a mountain side and the reservoir was to my right so I put the bike down and slid under the tree trunk.


I sold the bike after I got back to base. My boxer was disappointed as we would ride in the desert when I got home from work chasing rattlesnakes. Great fun. Many the nights when I would ride home with him drapped across the gas tank exhausted.


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Been riding since 1970. Quit last year. Too old. I've done it all.

I dearly love and admire a KTM but their maintenance requires a professional level of expertise.

I'm sure you know, in baseball you strike out. In football you get tackled. On off road motorcycles you fall.

Best of luck with what you decide and have fun for all of us too old to enjoy riding anymore. Hope you get your itch scratched, so-to-speak!


Triumph 1050 Tiger, circa 2010...perfect all-a-rounder...
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When I first started riding some 33+ years ago the guy selling me a bike told me don't go small. I was looking at a 250 to start. I ended up with a Yamaha FZ600 and I haven't looked back. I am currently on a BMW K1600 GL and love it. I had a Triumph that I really liked and took it in for an oil change. There was a used but, very low mile BMW that I took out for a test ride. Man I was sold.

Biggest problem with nice street cruisers and highway runners is that they are not cheap new. A new K1600 is around 30k:eek: Used are not too bad. You can get a used with around 25k miles for $19K or so depending on year.

My advise to you and a younger version of me would be to take a class. You get good training and get to learn on someone else's bike. Being a newly minted senior (55+), I value my comfort. I have heated seats, heated grips, and comfort ride if I want. I haven't done any long rides but, plan on it more as the opportunities present themselves. Some of the bigger bikes also have ABS breaks as well as setting for rain.

You know what they say, go big or go home. If you get something under a 600CC you will regret it. Just because it is bigger doesn't mean that it is more difficult to maneuver. It might even be better during certain weather events, WIND.:eek::eek::eek:

Just sayin:D
 
I sold a Suzuki DR 650 a couple years ago because I had preteen grandchildren living with me and wanted activities we could do together.
It was all I wanted to lift if dumped and to heavy for several trails. I like the DMX 400 but the 650 was on the edge for interstate rides when the speed limit is 80 and traffic is moving at 85.

You probably need to assess how much time you might spend at each activity and what percentage of riding time that is. Are the places you fish now walk in or only accessed by 4x4? How much interstate will you see and how fast does traffic move on secondary roads you use?
 
I started riding in the mid sixtys...everything ....dirt...highway....Hondas...Yamahas..Pentons...Husqvarna....Nortons....now at 72 ....its an "Adventure" just around the neighborhood....on my last two wheeler....
 

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If you start out on a smaller bike, there is a great chance you'll end up wanting something better and bigger in the near future.

If you want the best of the best in adventure motorcycles I doubt you could ever find anything better than the BMW R 1250 GS.

I'm gonna date myself here, but was on a USENET group called REC.MOTORCYCLES. We have a FB page now. Everyone of the on/off road guys had BMW's even back then. A few would ship their bike just to ride in some seriously exotic places around the world.

Not cheap, but you would never outgrow it.

Adventure | BMW Motorrad
 
BTW, it seems that drivers are really bad no matter WHERE you live! Most who have never ridden a MC just don't "get it"! They drive ultra quiet cars (inside the cabin) blast their music, yak on their phone's, text, watch their GPS screens and do everything except pay attention to driving!! Not good for MC's and the older we get the slower our reaction time, hearing and eyesight gets. I had to make a life's important decision and I did. I just thankful my luck held out as long as it did! No looking back.

The most daring thing I have now is an electric scooter. It goes 18 mph max (15 mph is my avg.) and I use it solely in our gated development to get the mail and go 3/4 mile down the road to visit friends. I wear a helmet as well. IMHO no more or less dangerous than a bicycle and our development has wide streets & great visibility. The scooter NEVER sees a public Rd.
 
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