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Looks like original finish with wear that would be expected for age. Appears correct to me although sharp closeup pictures might reveal more. I would likely buy it if I found it at a reasonable price, probably $600-$800ish.
Jeff
SWCA #1457
Jeff
SWCA #1457
That is a very, very nice commercial 1917. I have one in the same serial number range, but mine is a FrankenSmith. I bought a barreled, stripped frame and went through my parts stash to put it back together. It had also had the finish removed and I left it in the white.
hello gunsguy, comments, yea, I like it alot. an untouched commercial 1917. Getting more scarce to find just nice and original. No excuses on that gun. Good grab.
That is a beauty; post war commercial as Muley Gil posted.
Just enough honest wear to shoot and enjoy it w/o concerns for depreciating its value!
The eagle over 22 underneath and serial number 180,4xx, indicate it was built using a WWI surplus round top frame after 1922 since it has the MADE IN U.S.A. ROLLMARK on right side of frame.
If the backside of the right grip panel has a matching serial #, the 1929 up to WWII vintage grips with flat silver medallions, are the telltale indication it was assembled and shipped sometime after 1928.
Just enough honest wear to shoot and enjoy it w/o concerns for depreciating its value!
The eagle over 22 underneath and serial number 180,4xx, indicate it was built using a WWI surplus round top frame after 1922 since it has the MADE IN U.S.A. ROLLMARK on right side of frame.
If the backside of the right grip panel has a matching serial #, the 1929 up to WWII vintage grips with flat silver medallions, are the telltale indication it was assembled and shipped sometime after 1928.
Maybe you are becoming a Smith guy. Nice buy. I think I'd have gone for that one too.
That is what I would call an excellent shooter grade example. If I ran across one that nice I would be interested, just don't see them that nice around here. I never used to have any appreciation for those .45 models until a friend of mine gave me a good deal on an nicely refinished Brazilian model, it started a sickness that led me down the road into the pre-25 models and even a later 25-2 that had been re-worked into a bowling pin gun that had the most amazing double action trigger I had ever fooled around with. Its been a stable illness that levelled out and I am now in some state of remission. A piece like that for the right price would activate the illness again.
That's a very cool revolver and great shape for its age. If & when you shoot a defenseless piece of paper, could you let us know how it shoots? Thank you, Jeff T.
tenntex32
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Could you post a picture of the rear sight?
Was there a matching s/n on the back of the right side grip?
Were there any typical M1917 military inspection/acceptance markings anywhere on the frame or cylinder? (Look on the frame where the frame and yoke lay flat against each other, and the rear cylinder face.)
Just curious.
Thanks,
Dale
Was there a matching s/n on the back of the right side grip?
Were there any typical M1917 military inspection/acceptance markings anywhere on the frame or cylinder? (Look on the frame where the frame and yoke lay flat against each other, and the rear cylinder face.)
Just curious.
Thanks,
Dale
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Green Frog
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Nice! That could make a Smith lover out of Sarah Brady! I’ve been concentrating on the small and medium frames for a while now, but I’d surely be able to make room for one like that in my safe if the opportunity presented itself. Congratulations and welcome to S&W insanity!
Froggie
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You're very welcome! There are a few questions as well though?
tenntex32
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I didn't see one either, so I was curious as to if any of the eagle's head markings may still be present on the frame/yoke mating areas.
Not to poo poo on anything here but usually the silver medallion checkered grips, if numbered matching, are typically found on "later" commercial framed revolvers with the squared off rear sight and will not have military markings.
Most of the more "immediate" post WWI commercial examples utilizing military frames/parts typically will have the checkered grips without medallions.
While the OP has stated the barrel has an eagle's head stamp I did not see one on the rear cylinder face, so I was curious as to if one was really there and if I couldn't see it, and as to whether or not there were eagle's head markings on the frame, especially in the yoke/frame mating area.
Nothing is impossible and curiosity was getting the better of me with regards to the grip s/n and frame military/inspector markings.
In this s/n range I guess anything is possible with regards to expected parts/markings, etc...
Once again, just curiosity getting the better of me and nothing meant to be a detractor to the OP's fine example.
More overall pics would certainly be appreciated.
Dale
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Dale,
Me too, curiosity is what it's all about, especially with 1917 com'l models.
Inspected, but unused serial numbered 1917 military frames preceding and following #169959 (the estimated last military unit made), were assembled thru #209791 by 1946.
Every combination of parts one can think of, can be found. Inspector marks on none to 3 locations, U or sq notch rear sight, lanyard swivel or not, etc.
Grips are one of the best indicators of when they were assembled: checkered grips w/o medallions thru the '20s or checkered with silver medallions thru the '30s. The serial numbers are certainly of no help.
Me too, curiosity is what it's all about, especially with 1917 com'l models.
Inspected, but unused serial numbered 1917 military frames preceding and following #169959 (the estimated last military unit made), were assembled thru #209791 by 1946.
Every combination of parts one can think of, can be found. Inspector marks on none to 3 locations, U or sq notch rear sight, lanyard swivel or not, etc.
Grips are one of the best indicators of when they were assembled: checkered grips w/o medallions thru the '20s or checkered with silver medallions thru the '30s. The serial numbers are certainly of no help.
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