Any M&P45 Problems?

[Charlie Xray]

First post - I did a search and did not find what I was looking for so here goes....

I am interested in the S&W45 but would like to know more about it before I commit. I have a SAI XD45, and there is a lot I like about it even though my background and all training and competition is centered on the 1911 system. My interest in the S&W45 is because of my disappointment in the XD45. Some of those seem to have issues with feeding relating to the extracting empty coming into contact with the top round in the mag, driving it nose downward into what is being called a "nose-dive jam". The round actually jams in the magazine at about a 45 degree angle.

Sent it back to SAI and they sent me a new pistol, but it is exhibiting the same symptoms.

My purpose is not to trash the XD45; I like it and would keep it if it worked. My purpose is to determine if the M&P45 is a viable high-cap alternative that is free of systemic reliability issues.

I would love to hear of any issues users have had with this pistol and how they were resolved.

Thanks,
CX

 

[jfd]

I have both XD45 and M&P45C, like both just fine. Interesting to hear of the feeding/extracting prob w/your XD. Does it occur with various makes ammo? I've run Winchester and Remington primarily through mine, both FMJ and HP without problems. I got a M&P 45C because I wanted something a little smaller for CC. Feeds reliably, is very comfortable and controllable to shoot. No complaints from me, probably have 500 rnds through it.

 

[Vulcan Bob]

Im very happy with mine, no issues.

 

[Charlie Xray]

I have both XD45 and M&P45C, like both just fine. Interesting to hear of the feeding/extracting prob w/your XD. Does it occur with various makes ammo? I've run Winchester and Remington primarily through mine, both FMJ and HP without problems. I got a M&P 45C because I wanted something a little smaller for CC. Feeds reliably, is very comfortable and controllable to shoot. No complaints from me, probably have 500 rnds through it.

You can read all about it here.

The Continuing Mag Problem, Part2 w/Pics - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

It has to do with the extracting empty case dropping slightly below the center feeding rail of the slide during extraction. This brings the empty's rim into violent contact with the top round in the mag, driving it nose down. Some have reported it was so bad the top round reversed position in the mag. Lots of pics and discussions on the problem and how to test to see if yours exhibits the symptoms - and it may and you don't know it yet.

BTW, it was originally diagnosed by most as a weak mag spring issue, but it turns out that is not the problem at all. So the thread name is a misnomer. Near the end of the thread are some interesting fixes - if you have the machinist's skills and equipment.

CX

 

[jaysouth]

Major problem with my 45C is keeping up with reloading enough fodder to feed it.

No problems except the ammo problem and envy of other shooters when they play with it.

 

[10mm Sonny]

If you buy a used one, stay away from ones starting with serial # MPRxxxx. They have slide quailty issues.

 

[jfd]

Charlie----thanks for the reference to XD Talk Forum. Have looked only at the first few pages, will look at it more thoroughly when time permits. Good info, thanks for passing it along. Makes me that more more comfortable in trusting my M&P!!!!!

 

[Wee Hooker]

I can't hit anything with mine. Mainly because it's hard to see the sights with a paper bag over my head (I spent so many years bad mouthing plastic guns that I shoot in fear of being recognized. )
Seriously though. While It will never replace my 1911's, I've really taken a shine to my M&P. Fits my hand like no other double stack .45 I've ever handled and it's a very reliable/ fun gun to shoot!

Hi, My name is Dave and I now happily own a plastic handgun.....

 

[Smith Pistol]

I can't hit anything with mine. Mainly because it's hard to see the sights with a paper bag over my head (I spent so many years bad mouthing plastic guns that I shoot in fear of being recognized. )
Seriously though. While It will never replace my 1911's, I've really taken a shine to my M&P. Fits my hand like no other double stack .45 I've ever handled and it's a very reliable/ fun gun to shoot!

Heehee . . . Me too! All except for the paper bag part. I just say, "To heck with 'um if they can't take a joke."

Hi, My name is Dave and I now happily own a plastic handgun.....

Hey, is that the first step of the 12 step "Plastic Pistol Anonymous" program?

 

[Spotteddog]

Same place you were at almost exactly 1 year ago Dave.
First step if I recall the literature S/P, is admitting you have a problem.
Well, my problem was not trusting Tupperware made elsewhere.
Guess that problems been solved!

(EDIT) As a matter of fact until our evil dominatrix/moderator Barb C began teasing us with her purchase of one, the last thing I had in mind was needing another .45ACP? Looks like the addiction continues. Thanks a lot Barb! One year W/O smoking cigarettes, and now I'm being overpowered by another addiction?

 

[BarbC]

I have both the XD45 and the M&P45c. I haven't had any problems with either one but I find the 18-pound slide on the XD is much more difficult for me to pull into a locked position than the M&P's. The Springfield customer service did not recommend switching out the spring to a lighter weight one because a lighter spring might damage the frame.

Both guns shoot very well, but it's the M&P45c that I carry. It's the perfect size and even carried in a Don Hume IWB on beltless polyester slacks, it balances well and doesn't get in my way.

Spotted, you're going to have to get one!

 

[Spotteddog]

Your a vicious, merciless woman Barbara.
But alas, I am as putty in her hands......

 

[jaysouth]

Same place you were at almost exactly 1 year ago Dave.
First step if I recall the literature S/P, is admitting you have a problem.
Well, my problem was not trusting Tupperware made elsewhere.
Guess that problems been solved!

(EDIT) As a matter of fact until our evil dominatrix/moderator Barb C began teasing us with her purchase of one, the last thing I had in mind was needing another .45ACP? Looks like the addiction continues. Thanks a lot Barb! One year W/O smoking cigarettes, and now I'm being overpowered by another addiction?

Bad news: Yes, it is a powerful addiction for which takes control


Good News: No cure needed.

 

[mtnsmithguy]

I bought my new M&P .45 two days ago and fired 50 rounds thru it yesterday. The last round in the mag on the first set did not feed. Almost seemed to stick in the mag. Another 40 rounds and no problems. I was shooting "factory reloads" from a large ammo dealer. I'll chalk it up to being brand new. The recoil is very light compared to my Glock .40s.

The 10 round mag fully loaded will not seat unless I take one out. Is this normal? I don't like forcing the mag into the well, but if I can't take care of a situation with a total 10 rounds of .45 I'm running like heck.

 

[TippyRacer]

It's a gun, don't baby it. Slam the mag home.
Mine requires a good bit of force on a full mag.

 

[Plumbata]

No issues with mine, I have one of the very early guns.

 

[marc257]

I shoot my M&P 45 in IDPA. Shot probably 5000 rounds or so up to now. Never any problems.

 

[slammr]

Sorry to hear about your XD. I have an XDM-40 and shot over 1000 rounds with only one FTL; no other issues except that I would like a lighter trigger. PRP may take care of that before long.

I have an M&P 9c coming in next week. Can't wait.
I'll post back after firing a few hundred.

 

[Dances with Guns]

my mp45c has been great, it feeds all-even corbon 165grn +p sierra jhp's.

(got 230 +p TAP ammo in the first mag on the left, and the corbon 165grn +p's in the other two)

i used to have an xd45-nothing but problems. jammed all day long and the accuracy went way downhill the hotter the barrel got.

 

[snowman.45]

MP45c

My MP45c has replaced my Glock 36 (even sold it). I'm very fond of the MP45c; so much so, that I'm about to sell off a Glock 20 with only 50 rounds through it to get a full-size MP45. I think they're phenomenally great pistols. Who know, the next to go may be all four of my Glock 40 cals. in favor of MP40's.